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Re:A bike shop should choose its customer wisely by Noos on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:17AM (#24158989)
Not really, the whole point of "cycling" is conspicuous consumption and virtue signaling. The high price is what shows that you aren't some pleb riding a bicycle shaped object out of necessity. It's also health conscious, so extra status points. So the market charges this much as a differential, in the same way a "bespoke" suit is pricer than something off the rack.

People who want a car-alternative for necessity either buy a wal-mart bike, a cheap electric/gas moped, maybe a motorcycle, or walk.

Re:A bike shop should choose its customer wisely by throwaway9191a on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:11PM (#24159773)
> People who want a car-alternative for necessity either buy a wal-mart bike, a cheap electric/gas moped, maybe a motorcycle, or walk.

This isn't true across the board. There are absolutely folks who have a $12k INEOS Pinarello because of status, but there is real value in more expensive bikes (more expensive than walmart).

Going from steel to aluminum is a very recognizable weight difference. Your commute just became more manageable.

A 105 groupset is way more reliable (ime) than lower grades. Your gears will shift better, not click, not skip, and not drop your chain during your commute.

A bike shop (which sells more expensive bikes than walmart) is going to fit you properly. You may get lucky with the walmart bike, but a proper fit removes knee pain, lower back pain, shoulder pain and neck pain.

If you are commuting, shopping, using your bike for real world things, the extra money is well worth it.

Note: I'm talking about a $500 -> ~$2k. Not a $5k bike for a commute. By ditching your car, you more than make up for the $1500 difference in insurance payments, car payments, gas payments, it really adds up quick.

Re:A bike shop should choose its customer wisely by quicklime on Friday August 14, 2020 @04:47PM (#24163054)
> A 105 groupset is way more reliable (ime) than lower grades. Your gears will shift better, not click, not skip, and not drop your chain during your commute.

Really? I feel like my old 8-speed Sora bike needs far fewer derailleur adjustments than my newer 11-speed 105 bike.

I guess this is because the higher-end groupsets are lighter-weight and have more gears (so, a thinner chain and finer mechanical tolerances).

Re:A bike shop should choose its customer wisely by secondcoming on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:57AM (#24159592)
How is it different to people who buy, or custom build, high-end PCs when chasing high FPS? What home user actually needs a 16-core Ryzen CPU?
Re:A bike shop should choose its customer wisely by mlrtime on Friday August 14, 2020 @04:07PM (#24162628)
Nobody can see your 16 core Ryzen
Re:A bike shop should choose its customer wisely by triceratops on Friday August 14, 2020 @04:58PM (#24163187)
Walmart bikes suck. Mopeds and motorcyles require licenses and insurance. Walking...I'm not sure you're even serious.

Not everything you disagree with is "virtue signalling". As a bike commuter (i.e. ride for transport not pleasure) the difference between a Walmart bike and a $300 Trek is night and day. And between that and a $700 bike is still good, if you can afford it. Quality costs money.

Re:A bike shop should choose its customer wisely by watwut on Friday August 14, 2020 @05:12PM (#24163339)
Totally. And people who use cars to travel to work buy the cheapes cars available.
Re:A bike shop should choose its customer wisely by olyjohn on Friday August 14, 2020 @05:48PM (#24163702)
It's insanity... Average sales price for new cars is like $37,000 right now. I'm a huge car nerd, and can't justify spending that kind of money on car. I can get a lot of car for $10k used.