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Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by jhardy54 on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:22AM (#24153345)
They were expecting to get kicked out of the app store so that they could file a lawsuit and challenge the app store monopoly. How is that unclear?
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by whateveracct on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:30AM (#24153408)
Gonna sue Nintendo if they don't let your game in the eshop?
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by Polylactic_acid on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:51AM (#24154170)
Nintendo should be forced to allow homebrew games/sideloading. These locked down bits of hardware are a disservice to society.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by camhart on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:13AM (#24153864)
I understand this question, but I believe an eshop is different from a major platform used by hundreds of millions of people on a daily basis to run their lives.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by spanhandler on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:25AM (#24153988)
It is possible that some of those people would list "only one app store & gateway for digital payments" as a feature for which they bought devices based on that platform. I'd list lots of the things devs complain about on iOS as reasons I favor it as an end user, in fact. (for the record, I've also done iOS and Android dev)

They're not perfect at all and I wish very much that they had competition, but for me to consider it real competition with the product they're providing it'd have to be similarly locked-down. The locking-down is part of the value. There are already far-less-locked-down phones and tablets available for people who want that.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by toyg on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:52AM (#24154603)
Lock it down by default, but allow users to unlock it. Make it a bit hard, like the carrier-lock. You have your walled garden and I have my device.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by spanhandler on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:58AM (#24154673)
I’m totally cool with that provided it’s not easy enough that another App Store is able to become a de facto necessity via that install method. The current official side-loading methods are almost good enough to suit the case of power users running a few custom apps from outside the store. If there’s a way to take off the time limits and not open up the possibility of the above scenario, that’d be wonderful. I have a couple non-App Store apps I’d put on mine, in fact.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by Mikhail_Edoshin on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:54AM (#24154191)
Isn't Fortnite just some game?
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by camhart on Friday August 14, 2020 @06:49AM (#24156275)
Fortnite is a game, but the lawsuit only uses Fornite as a concrete example of what Apple is doing. Epic Games if fighting for everyone--all app developers and ios users.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by the_hoser on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:26AM (#24153997)
Much harder, but it wouldn't surprise me if the do later, depending on how this goes.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by throwaway6000 on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:24AM (#24153359)
app store "monopoly"? No one's forcing you to use the Apple ecosystem. it's called Android.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by ben-schaaf on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:09AM (#24153828)
Where you're pretty much stuck google play store, which has also banned the app...

There is side-loading, but there's a lot of friction there that I wouldn't expect normal users to withstand.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by Polylactic_acid on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:26AM (#24154402)
Its a monopoly for developers. As a company you can not not use the app store because half of your customers are there and very few companies can afford to give up half of their customers.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by pjmlp on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:39AM (#24154504)
Developers can chose to target other platforms.

There are countries with 0% iOS market share, half of zero is still zero.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by imtringued on Friday August 14, 2020 @03:52AM (#24155072)
I personally don't like Apple and will never buy an Apple product, but I fully agree. People who buy Apple products are perfectly fine with the way Apple restricts their platform. If you don't like this as a developer, then just leave and stop developing for iOS.

A single big company doing this just to cut down on some fees just reeks of greed.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by pjmlp on Friday August 14, 2020 @04:14AM (#24155228)
It is not a single company, Google also kicked Fortnite, and it has been a thing in game consoles, car infotaiment systems, pre loaded apps on TV settop boxes and blue-ray players,....

The world is unfair, no one is expected to do charity for developers.

We are not a special snowflake job that isn't expected to give others the necessary payments to keep the whole chain working.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by Polylactic_acid on Sunday August 16, 2020 @07:18PM (#24182226)
For most business that is not a choice. If you are making a utility or game then maybe, but can a company like uber decide that they will only be available to android users?