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Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by Rapzid on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:03PM (#24152788)
I don't believe so.. As part of Epics business strategy since the Tencent investment they have been working to reduce license and distribution costs across the industry to the benefit of a lot of developers; and themselves of course.

Now Epic is worth over $18b, has some VERY big name investors, and controls the most popular game on the planet. They have the power to sway public sentiment against Apple, a legal leg to stand on as far as anti-trust, deep pockets, and powerful friends.

My guess, and hope, is that Epic takes Apple to the cleaners.

Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by ryandrake on Friday August 14, 2020 @03:01AM (#24154688)
This seems like a huge bridge-burning move.

If I owned a grocery store chain, and some food company decided to trash me in the press, mock me, and sue me, I would never allow a single one of their products on my store's shelves again, forever, regardless of the outcome. I honestly don't understand what Epic hopes to achieve here. Why wouldn't Apple just ban Epic products from their store for good after this?

Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by grumple on Friday August 14, 2020 @04:59AM (#24155542)
Epic probably plans to win the case and force Apple to loosen restrictions on iOS.

Apple isn’t the store owner, they are the shelf manufacturer. We are the store owners, and Apple is telling us what we’re allowed to put on our shelves. You know, I don’t think this is a great metaphorical framework.

Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by ryandrake on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:22AM (#24159069)
Apple definitely is the store owner. They built and run the AppStore app and backend infrastructure, set the rules for what goes on the shelves and what doesn't, take a (large) cut for providing distribution, arrange things on the shelves, point people to products. Whether you disagree with Apple or not in this case, these are functions of a store, and it's clearly Apple's store.
Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by gpm on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:08PM (#24152816)
> My guess, and hope, is that Epic takes Apple to the cleaners.

They're not asking for money, they're just asking for an order ordering Apple to stop their anti-competitive behavior with the app store and with payments. No cleaners are likely to be involved in this process win or lose.

Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by Rapzid on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:13PM (#24152857)
That phrase has two common meanings..
Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by gpm on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:19PM (#24152892)
Uh?

The only meaning I'm aware of is "to take tons of money from", what's the other?

Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by Semaphor on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:04AM (#24153214)
2. To soundly defeat or best one; to succeed over one by a wide margin.

-- https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/take+to+the+cleaners

Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by coreblocks on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:17AM (#24153302)
Apple is worth 2 trillion if we are looking at market cap. They can literally buy out epic if they wanted to.
Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by gpm on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:44AM (#24153561)
Not necessarily. Tim Sweeney owns more than half of Epic Games, and (presumably, I'm obviously not privy to what contracts he has signed) has no obligation to sell for any amount of money. He is also rich enough to have "fuck the world money" and not accept a price that is far above what his share in Epic Games is actually worth.
Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by ssivark on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:06AM (#24154256)
That would be a stupid strategy for Apple, for a multitude of reasons:

1. Fighting it out in court, and then paying damages is probably going to be cheaper than 18 billion USD.

2. I don’t know if AppStore profits (NPV of discounted future profits) make it even worth 18 billion USD.

3. If they buy out Epic, they’re signaling weakness which is basically asking the next company to play the same game.

4. It just provides more evidence & impetus for those pushing for antitrust action.

There is technically a chance Apple might eventually acquire Epic, but if so, that would be driven by Apple seeking an interesting platform for its VR hardware, not to just close down this lawsuit.

Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by t0mas88 on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:32AM (#24154447)
Apple would have to be insane to do that. Within a month they would have the same problem with the rest of the top 10 paid apps.
Re:Epic will mock Apple’s most iconic ad as possible revenge... by the_hoser on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:10AM (#24153838)
Only if Tim is willing to sell it.