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Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by dahfizz on Thursday August 13, 2020 @10:46AM (#24143852)
> There are quite a lot of people now that just use a web browser on their desktop or laptop.

As opposed to the people who used to use their computer for email and spread sheets?

I would argue that the resource needs of a web browser has absolutely been increasing over time. The 4GB of RAM in that old laptop just does not work for the modern web. And considering how many web site now require the client to run tons and tons of JS just to work, I can see a need to refresh your CPU regularly.

Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by pythonaut_16 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:38AM (#24144464)
Spreadsheets and some other business software can get really gnarly though (especially on RAM usage). Outlook itself can be quite heavy.

But I also agree, browsers and web apps aren't exactly lightweight either. Maybe WASM adoption can help on this front?

Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by y-c-o-m-b on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:55PM (#24145463)
> The 4GB of RAM in that old laptop just does not work for the modern web

Completely false, I'm on 4GB RAM and Q9300. I haven't had any issues. 99% of websites run smooth. I even code on this machine. See my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24145436

EDIT: I have 10 tabs open right now in Firefox. From bbc.com, HackerNews, and Zillow. I also have AnyDesk, Slack, Signal, VSCode, and a couple of other programs open right now. No performance issues.

EDIT2: I opened up Chrome with Youtube in addition to the above, here's proof everything is still doing well: https://imgur.com/a/SlxT4yE

EDIT3: Ok now i'm just having fun. I added a Netflix tab to Chrome. Opened up a big project in VSCode. Added Vivaldi browser, Notepad++. It stuttered a little (5-10s) loading up the programs but once they were up, it's fine again: https://imgur.com/a/BNqPKU9

Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by timothyduong on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:13AM (#24153278)
If only 4GB of RAM would suffice on my Windows 10 SOE. That thing has 20GB of RAM And a 2018 i5 and still struggles. MS SCCM and all the other 'protection' destroys any ability to be productive.
Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by tyingq on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:43AM (#24144545)
I don't believe I claimed that 4GB RAM was enough. Just that a 5 year old (and perhaps older) CPU was good enough.

I mentioned web browser usage as opposed to more demanding loads like gaming, content creation, software development, multiple office tools being used at the same time alongside the browser, etc.

Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by stagger87 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:05AM (#24144053)
4GB of RAM on a machine (regardless of OS) is absolutely fine for browsing the "modern web".
Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by mucinoab on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:24PM (#24145089)
Windows alone uses like 2GB, open some tabs and you are already out of ram. I think 8 is the new minimum.
Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by stagger87 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:03PM (#24145544)
I have 30 tabs open in Chrome, real tabs, on youtube, PDFs, and code/API docs, and I just cycled through them all to make sure they are loaded, and Chrome is at 600MB.

The phase "open some tabs and you are already out of ram" is a bit of an exaggeration.

Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by imperialdrive on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:24AM (#24144301)
That is the opposite of what I see on a daily basis managing several 100+ SMB Windows based computer networks. I'm curious what your summary is to back up 4GB being absolutely fine.
Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by zozbot234 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:25PM (#24145091)
> Windows

There's your problem!

Re:Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed by rbanffy on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:43PM (#24161670)
Maybe, if you have only one tab open