Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards
by mhaberl on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:50AM
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I agree with this.
We all love to say that we want creative free thinking individuals.. but come on now - currently the society is mostly composed of conformed (without this society probably would not function, at least as it does now) and in a lesser extent the obedient.
The creative and free thinking individuals push us all foward and we would not advance without them, but the majority is different.
Schooling system is not what it is by accident.
Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards
by kqr on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:35AM
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Actual, socially beneficial conformity is produced just fine on its own with how humans generally are social group animals that want to fit in and not be embarrassed from doing weird, unfair, or harmful stuff.
Simply interacting with other people is what makes humans follow meaningful rules. That happens whether or not we're rewarded for being good dogs in the eyes of adults.
Conformity to arbitrary procedures and sets of rules is not helpful anywhere, and that's what school gives us.
I think your expectations of the schooling system are simply skewed. At least in the countries which I lived in (Europe) the 'customer' of the schooling system is first and foremost society as a whole.
The individual, the child, comes second. Not in a way that children are not important. It's just that the outcome of a well organised society is what matters. So, although not in extreme ways of course (there is no evil mastermind), conformity and the likes are important values.