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Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by allenu on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:29PM (#24138736)
I like your attitude. How, if I may ask, did you end up with your current philosophy? Was it through past experiences where people did take your time and you gave in?

I love the idea of taking lots of time off, but on a personal level I have a lot of guilt surrounding that. I know it's not rational since ultimately it's my life, but it's still something I need to work on to get over. If you have tips on changing my mindset surrounding this, I'd love to hear it.

Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by gerdesj on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:55PM (#24138911)
caymanjim is unlikely to answer. The poor thing is knackered out from typing their post.

I think that they might have been a little disingenuous. Their post was far too long and properly typed out to be from a real sloth.

Fibber.

Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by mettamage on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:44AM (#24139997)
I identify with his post. I always had a rebellious streak when it comes to people judging me. In return, I don’t judge other people myself. It also saves a lot of energy :)

That’s how I don’t feel guilty. I am not doing anything and you can do whatever you want in life too.

I find it tough to achieve though. I am currently at 4 days per week but would like to be at 3.5 days, that’s my optimum (lower than 3 days and I will go insane of not exercising my mind).

Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by perfunctory on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:28AM (#24140837)
> lower than 3 days and I will go insane of not exercising my mind

It's not like paid work is the only place where you can exercise your mind

Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by mettamage on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:32AM (#24142226)
I agree but I find it the most practical place. If I can’t exercise my mind, then there’s nothing for me at work other than obtaining an income (no SF salary here so no financial independence possible).
Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by 6510 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:17PM (#24144971)
I do the same only I exercise the body at work.
Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by mettamage on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:20PM (#24173308)
Nice one!

Fair enough, I thought about doing that too. I chose for the mind, but IMO the body is a good option as well, especially because if you choose the right profession (i.e. light to medium exercise), it probably means you'll live longer.

Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by dunefox on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:57AM (#24140999)
If you need the workplace to 'exercise your mind' then I don't know what to tell you... all your free time gained this way is useless then if you don't know how to spend it.
Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by mettamage on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:27AM (#24142188)
One needs to work to survive. The benefit of work for me is to exercise my mind. Other forms are available but do not aid survival. So assuming everything else is equal, I should use work to exercise my mind.

The issue with work is that it is constrained to one thing (web dev in my case). I can use my free time to do whatever (relax or other exercises such as meditation).

Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by ta1234567890 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:12AM (#24140127)
Can't answer for caymanjim. Personally, I now work about 2-5 hours per week, mostly just meeting some people (don't have to do anything besides talking to them).

What I realized early in my professional career was that position trumps everything. For example, if you are born into a great enough position, you are set for life, pretty much regardless of anything else. Then I figured out (slowly over time through trial and error), which positions I could move to from the one I was in, where I could either: a) do less work for same pay, or b) get more pay for same work. Although a lot of times switching positions required intense "extra" work.

In the end however, it seems to mostly just been a lot of luck in the way things played out, together with an intense desire to, in the long term, reduce my work-related load/responsibilities.

Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by tmnvix on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:09AM (#24141349)
I'm curious. If you don't mind me asking, what do you talk about for those 2-5 hours?
Re:Bertrand Russell's argument for idleness is more relevant... by ta1234567890 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:05PM (#24144830)
Depends on who I meet with. But mostly it's about financials, sales, planning, legal issues and team building (usually talking about personal stuff and building rapport as a group). Sometimes it's about product and programming.