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Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by jeroenhd on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:31AM (#24130426)
That sucks. I much preferred the drivers Windows automatically finds over navigating shitty vendor websites that break their links every other year and sometimes just take down all drivers for some of their product.

It also takes away some of the power Microsoft had over hardware manufacturers regarding driver quality; the WHQL program has only improved driver quality in my experience. Of course companies like NVIDIA encourage you to use their website version that doesn't need to pass all the quality checks because it's faster, preferably by making you sign up and letting them track what you do on your computer with some of their spyware, but that doesn't take away from the fact that Microsoft-sanctioned drivers are usually much more reliable and secure than random downloads a vendor decides to throw on their website.

It also makes a lot of older hardware useless. Microsoft's database contains many more drivers for less common, cheaper brands than vendors' websites, especially when the devices in question is older than three years and they'd much rather have you buy a new laptop than give you a driver for the motherboard.

I too have been bitten by the random software popup when plugging in a "gaming" mouse from Logitech, but I think it's wrong to blame Microsoft for the shitty software their vendors throw online. Microsoft judges drivers on stability and code quality rather than weird features like side programs, so if Logitech asserts that their customers want to use the program to use all the drivers' features, then who are they to object?

Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by izacus on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:58AM (#24131589)
As its written in the article this doesn't remove what you're talking about - the mechanism for driver updates is now Windows Update. And it works rather well - my Razer laptop pulled all of its drivers immediately from Windows Update with no manual faffing needed.

This is only about the Device manager integrated function which is really now a duplicate of Windows Update version.

Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by jeroenhd on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:30AM (#24133045)
The problem with that is that the Device Manager feature is simple and understandable. When I install or reconfigure a driver and want to pull a driver from Windows Update, I can specifically start the update client for that device and see when it's done.

With Windows Update I just have to believe that it'll look for drivers at some point. There's no direct feedback anymore.

Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by cptskippy on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:45AM (#24132014)
> That sucks. I much preferred the drivers Windows automatically finds over navigating shitty vendor websites that break their links every other year and sometimes just take down all drivers for some of their product.

I think you're conflating at least 2 other Windows features with the one removed.

Microsoft didn't get rid of the database of WHQL drivers that ship with Windows, they didn't get rid of the Windows Update mechanism for updating those drivers.

They got rid of the feature to search online for a driver when Plug-And-Play setup fails or when you manually go into the Device Manager and click the Update Driver button on a device.

The only time I've seen this feature kick in was when I plugged in a brand new GPU or random microcontroller board (e.g. Digispark). In either case it failed. I honestly don't recall the feature ever working.

Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by jeroenhd on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:33AM (#24133071)
I've had this feature fix many problems for family members with broken (and usually cheap) laptops. Uninstall the existing driver, pull the official one down from Microsoft.

It also helped me update some drivers that hadn't come in via Windows Update yet for some weird USB device, probably because it wasn't plugged in when the update process ran.

Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by cptskippy on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:23PM (#24133634)
> Uninstall the existing driver, pull the official one down from Microsoft.

Are you specifically selecting that search option after it fails to install a driver? If you're just uninstalling the vendor provided drivers, removing the vendor drivers from disk, and redetecting the hardware then Windows might just be pulling a WHQL driver off disk that it already has.

Most Windows installs come with a cache of WHQL drivers for common devices, companies like Synaptics, Realtek, etc will provide a single driver that supports most of their devices. In rare cases where you have a device with limited storage (e.g. a cheap tablet) then it might not have those drivers, but that's not the norm.

Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by raxxorrax on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:16AM (#24131737)
It would be so easy to implement as switch for something like this. It is like Microsoft really tries to not give users a choice these days.
Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by fr2null on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:29AM (#24131858)
I think part of this is because Microsoft already has mountains of barely used legacy code they need to support. With every choice they remove, they can remove some of it, or at least make sure it doesn't grow.
Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by cptskippy on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:48AM (#24132039)
It is so easy to dismiss Microsoft's actions as malice or laziness rather than consider why they actually might be doing something.
Re:Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Automatic Driver Search by xnyan on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @10:17AM (#24132263)
They have, and it works well. Also, you don't have to use it so they do it fact give you a choice.