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Re:Stopping deepfake news with an AI algorithm that can tell... by paulryanrogers on Sunday August 09, 2020 @10:41AM (#24099920)
Well it took me 35 years but I escaped religion despite being indoctrinated from a young age. And leaving was a difficult choice but education and evidence were the keys that freed me.

Piercing cognitive biases is hard, maybe harder if those most in need feel forced.

Re:Stopping deepfake news with an AI algorithm that can tell... by TheSpiceIsLife on Sunday August 09, 2020 @10:45AM (#24099943)
Be kind to yourself and know that a fair swathe of the early years of life are necessarily of low agency.
Re:Stopping deepfake news with an AI algorithm that can tell... by elliekelly on Sunday August 09, 2020 @11:23AM (#24100150)
> Piercing cognitive biases is hard, maybe harder if those most in need feel forced.

I think about this article (post?) called “How to Change a Mind”[1] a lot. It’s about a woman whose husband was in a religious cult and how he finally realized it.

[1]https://forge.medium.com/how-to-change-a-mind-1774681b9369

Re:Stopping deepfake news with an AI algorithm that can tell... by Karunamon on Sunday August 09, 2020 @07:08PM (#24103727)
From some of the terminology used, I'm pretty sure the cult in question are the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Thankfully that one seems to be dying off. Their membership is in decline, the internet has made it more and more likely that any potential convert has already heard the horror stories.

Re:Stopping deepfake news with an AI algorithm that can tell... by ericlewis on Sunday August 09, 2020 @10:54AM (#24099992)
I could have clarified more- I’m saying that even with these sort of deep fakes that breaking people out might be just as hard. Especially if objective proof becomes “malleable” similar to how religion can lack objective proof, manipulating people in a new way means we need methods.
Re:Stopping deepfake news with an AI algorithm that can tell... by paulryanrogers on Sunday August 09, 2020 @11:10AM (#24100067)
Your point seemed clear enough to me. Perhaps my response drifted too far. I see education as a common solution to the "it's all relative" and "no one can know for sure" shortcuts some people take to hold on to what's more comfortable to believe.

And just as religion may often teach people to turn off their critical thinking skills they can be taught to use them again. And human brains evolved to recognize unhealthy or unnatural facial imagery for millennium. So unmasking the more successful techniques may be enough to break us out of the "anything can be fake" malaise.