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Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by speedgoose on Saturday August 08, 2020 @10:58AM (#24092082)
I'm right now in a Norwegian plane to come back from France to Norway. There is a quarantine since midnight, which is a good thing. There is a reason that France and Norway do not have the same numbers, French people are pretty bad at taking the covid19 measures seriously. I'm not thinking about the government but the population in general. It's a bit frustrating because it's not very difficult to be careful. I have seen many restaurant employees not wearing a mask correctly or at all, many sellers manipulating cash money without washing their hands after, and so many people not thinking about the distances. In some places, it's like nothing happened, and it's crowded.

Travelling abroad this summer is considered by many as stupid and careless. I bought the trip when the numbers were good and when the governments were allowing tourism. I think we may have to travel only when the indicators are green for some time. It was green, it's not anymore.

By the way, some asshole passengers are coughing in the plane.

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by doublesCs on Saturday August 08, 2020 @11:37AM (#24092440)
> Travelling abroad this summer is considered by many as stupid and careless. I bought the trip when the numbers were good and when the governments were allowing tourism.

So wait. You bought your tickets when "the numbers were good". So you made a bet. Why do you have a problem with other people making a bet NOW? They're just accepting different odds. Everyone has to judge their own risk/rewards.

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by arp242 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @11:13AM (#24092235)
> By the way, some asshole passengers are coughing in the plane.

Can't really stop people from coughing, no? It's pretty involuntary.

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by pen2l on Saturday August 08, 2020 @11:16AM (#24092265)
I've got it bad in a similar situation: I work in a hospital ... and I'm finding myself coughing a lot.

But it's not the virus, have been tested negative twice. It's allergies and other things.

When generally outside, it's annoying to have to suppress coughing lest I scare others.

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by speedgoose on Saturday August 08, 2020 @11:26AM (#24092342)
True. But you can cough in your arm.
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by Kiro on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:40PM (#24092989)
> I have seen many restaurant employees not wearing a mask correctly or at all

Compared to 0% mask usage in Norway.

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by n0rge on Saturday August 08, 2020 @01:12PM (#24093252)
> Compared to 0% mask usage in Norway.

That is factually incorrect.

I see several people wearing masks, at least in Oslo. Both on the subway, but also people working in grocery stores etc.

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by Kiro on Saturday August 08, 2020 @01:52PM (#24093627)
Norway still has no mask mandate and is even recommending against it (similar to other Scandinavian countries). Comparing Norway and France and complaining about mask usage in France is just strange in that context:

> There is a reason that France and Norway do not have the same numbers, French people are pretty bad at taking the covid19 measures seriously. [...] I have seen many restaurant employees not wearing a mask correctly or at all

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by speedgoose on Saturday August 08, 2020 @02:00PM (#24093704)
I was thinking more about the rules to follow. I agree that it's weird to complain about mask usage in France when Norwegian do not use them in Norway. But overall, I feel like Norwegian business are a bit more careful. As an example home office in Norway is recommended until next year while France recommends to wear masks at work (except at your office). Which many people in France do not do.
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by tedk-42 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @11:51AM (#24092552)
Wow. Just wow.

You claim French people aren't taking covid measures seriously, yet you are behaving as a potential human carrier of the virus by travelling abroad.

And you have the nerve to complain about people coughing on the plane...

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by dang on Saturday August 08, 2020 @02:45PM (#24094058)
Please keep the online shaming/callout culture off HN. I know it feels justified in individual cases, but it adds up to a tragedy of the commons effect in the end. A massive one.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=online%20shaming%20by%3Adang&s...

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by doublesCs on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:48PM (#24095521)
speedgoose was doing it to an entire country, but tedk-42 is the one who gets reprimanded?
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by dang on Saturday August 08, 2020 @06:01PM (#24095601)
We seem to be talking about different things.
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by tedk-42 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @07:41PM (#24096122)
My bad, late night!
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by udhendudixjx on Saturday August 08, 2020 @08:08PM (#24096269)
Dang the hypocrite
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by dang on Sunday August 09, 2020 @01:07AM (#24097404)
What have I done now?
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by lars on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:12PM (#24092735)
If you talk to Norwegians about Norwegians, you'll discover that we're very good at patting ourselves on the back. You might say that we're one of the best countries in the world when it comes to patting ourselves on the back.
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by speedgoose on Saturday August 08, 2020 @01:56PM (#24093669)
I'm actually French. But I agree that Norwegian are good at patting themselves on the back.
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by skinkestek on Saturday August 08, 2020 @06:18PM (#24095697)
True I think.

But remember that Norwegians also have maybe the worlds largest inferiority complex ;-)

Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by speedgoose on Saturday August 08, 2020 @01:54PM (#24093658)
The rules are simple to follow. Traveling was allowed.
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by spoopyskelly on Saturday August 08, 2020 @09:06PM (#24096496)
You're complaining about people doing dumb stuff while you are inside a sealed tube that recirculates the air from those coughing people around you.
Re:Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad by speedgoose on Sunday August 09, 2020 @01:57AM (#24097567)
The plane has airfilters and everyone wears a mask. You are also supposed to be careful and wash your hands.