Re:US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
by modeless on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:03AM
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What does victory mean in the era of mutually assured destruction? I don't see how a shooting war between the US and China could not end in both sides getting nuked.
Re:US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
by baybal2 on Friday August 07, 2020 @04:23AM
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> I don't see how a shooting war between the US and China could not end in both sides getting nuked.
There is only one country in the world which is reliably able to afford being nuked, and has "surviving first, and second strike" as part of its many doctrines.
The only major country against which MAD is not so assured is China.
Re:US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
by kingkawn on Friday August 07, 2020 @08:28AM
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You’re talking about killing millions because of a disagreement in management styles
Re:US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
by simonblack on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:49AM
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Mao is reputed to have said regarding a nuclear war.
"Kill 300 million Chinese, still got a billion Chinese left. Kill 300 million Americans, no more America."
Re:US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
by baybal2 on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:09AM
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I'd say US, and China's contradictions are by far greater than "disagreement in management styles"
USA talks TikTak, but the world hears "the overall political arrangement of China"
Re:US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
by pms on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:55AM
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Invasion on Iraq led to many deaths and was based on false premises and similar "disagreement in management styles". War with China would be a terrible calamity. I don't understand why, but the US is turning into a bad actor, and the most scary thing is that it's convinced it's a good actor.
Re:US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
by empressplay on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:20AM
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Which is why nobody will push the button, even if they're being invaded, they'll just accept being occupied and mount a resistance. MAD always relied on a fiction of natural insanity that doesn't actually exist. I don't think any tactician takes widespread nuclear exchanges seriously as a likely outcome to any contemporary global conflict.
I'm classing it as a certainty. Have a read of the Wolfowitz Doctrine and work out what it necessitates, and that to be done very soon.
Even so, I believe the US has 'missed the bus'. It needed to have initiated vigorous conflict earlier this year to be sure of victory in that coming war. It can't start anything worthwhile now until at least the next Spring-Summer campaign season. By then China will have had another 12 months of growth, and the US another 12 months of decline.