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Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by chki on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @09:41AM (#24049831)
>"We appreciate the opportunity to work with the European Commission on an approach that addresses consumers' expectations of their wearable devices"

I mean, there is "corporate talk" but this is on another level.

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by elgenie on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @09:58AM (#24049995)
It’s actually fairly straightforward for this kind of thing.

What it’s saying is that Google would desperately love to use the US‘ anti-trust standard of concentrated market power being a-OK as long as consumers aren’t obviously being hurt right that second rather than the (better) European standard of considering the prospects of competitors and potential competitors as well.

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by nradov on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @10:02AM (#24050027)
Competitors such as Apple, Samsung, Garmin, Coros, and Suunto are doing fine with wearable fitness tracker devices. Fitbit was on a path to failure when Google bought them. The industry was due for a shakeout and consolidation as the technology matured.
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by liaukovv on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @10:39AM (#24050440)
The concern is not with google dominating wearable market, but rather google solidifying it's stranglehold on ad market with more data.
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by three_seagrass on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @01:27PM (#24052332)
Google holds ~55% share of the online ad market, and it's dropping an Amazon ramps up. Far from a "stranglehold".
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by liaukovv on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @03:05PM (#24053376)
But is dynamic of google buying up products and making them free or cheaper by subsidizing from search ads(with the goal of making search ads more profitable with additional data from free product) healthy for the market?
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by three_seagrass on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @06:57PM (#24055399)
This acq focus is on devices, not ads.

Google already pledged not to use user health data for ads:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-fitbit-m-a-alphabet-eu-ex...

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by WorldMaker on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @03:56PM (#24053866)
Especially when it is personal health data now at risk of being used to subsidize ads?

Advertising is already creepy enough trying to determine when, for instance, someone is pregnant via related purchases (and sometimes guessing correctly ahead of the person's own knowledge, per famous anecdata), just imagine how much more creepy it can get when it is data being sold to advertisers from your own wrist?

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by bryanrasmussen on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @09:46AM (#24049883)
The skills of a poet and the soul of.a weasel. I could do this job.
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by inetknght on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @10:10AM (#24050126)
> The skills of a poet and the soul of.a weasel. I could do this job.

Not with that wild period ruining your grammar! Grammar is important to corporate doublespeak

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by jjoonathan on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @10:29AM (#24050321)
Eh, it was probably just auto-correct being "helpful."

System Preferences > Keyboard > Text > Add period with double-space (disable)

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by bryanrasmussen on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @10:28AM (#24050316)
hmm, so it is time to clean all these specks off the monitor again - if it were done before I would have noticed the error.

on edit: although, really, bad grammar is important to corporate doublespeak as it lends an element of plausible deniability when you get called in front of committee.

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by MrVitaliy on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @10:55AM (#24050583)
Thought it was for an informal dramatization effect.

  ... the soul of <pause> a weasel.
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by duxup on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @10:43AM (#24050472)
Is that ... bad?

It's just acknowledging the situation, beyond that it's not deceptive or anything IMO.

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by sandworm101 on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @11:03AM (#24050679)
It's like a person saying:

"I'm happy that the IRS has selected me for audit. I am eager to assist them in their efforts to evaluate whether I have committed a wrongdoing. I love spending money on lawyers."

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by duxup on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @11:12AM (#24050768)
I think it's more just of an acknowledgment.

I don't know what folks want in a news bit about this 'OH WOE IS ME?!?!'

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by wutbrodo on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @12:03PM (#24051275)
Don't waste too much time expecting consistency or even coherence on this thread. HN collectively loses 30 IQ points when commenting on any post about Google.
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by duxup on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @12:25PM (#24051514)
Normally I'm hesitant to agree with such glib / all encompassing statements but I fear that I sort of agree with your assessment.

Parsing word by word generic corporate statements seems pretty silly at this point.

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by wutbrodo on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @02:35PM (#24053093)
Yea, I may complain about HN's commentariat here and there, but it really is one of the higher-quality fora out there.

But for some reason, it's especially susceptible to specific triggering topics that cause complete forfeiture of critical thinking ability and intellectual honesty among a big chunk of the commenters (and voters).

There are plenty of valid criticisms of Google, but criticism is worthless if it isn't based in at least an attempt at intellectual honesty.

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by sandworm101 on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @11:38AM (#24051038)
It is the "we appreciate" part that is disingenuous. The honest answer would be more along the lines of "We have done nothing wrong and are confident that any investigation with exonerate us of wrongdoing." That's the sort of thing a defendant's lawyer says on the courthouse steps.
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by wutbrodo on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @12:05PM (#24051298)
That's communicating something different from what they intend. Your statement implies a default position of combativeness, while theirs states that they're open to some degree of regulation:

> on an approach that addresses consumers' expectations of their wearable devices

Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by duxup on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @12:07PM (#24051324)
Seems kinda absurd to worry about what is a copy and paste acknowledgement that isn't going to give up any details on their approach anyhow....
Re:EU launches probe into Google-Fitbit takeover by VoxPelli on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @01:15PM (#24052170)
I agree, it's very much a work that is done together. If EU considers the deal hurt competition, then Google might still be able to buy Fitbit if they take measures that ensure competition is still healthy, so very good if one admits to that and are eager to find a way forward rather than the classic Uber-response "Everyone but us are stupid, it's our way or the highway"