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Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by DanBC on Monday August 03, 2020 @04:59AM (#24035479)
That isn't the Guardian worldview.

They're saying there are a small number of healthcare professionals arriving as asylum seekers, and that it makes no sense to prevent those people from working especially during the worst pandemic the world has seen for many years.

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Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by ben_w on Monday August 03, 2020 @05:55AM (#24035834)
Asylum seekers are not allowed to work. I don’t like that they’re not allowed to work, but that’s really the fault of the British government for passing laws that say they’re not allowed to work.

They’re also not allowed to vote. That part at least make sense to me.

Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by CodeGlitch on Monday August 03, 2020 @08:10AM (#24036672)
I don't agree about being allowed to work - that would drive down wages even more for low-skilled jobs, that the poor already suffer from.
Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by ben_w on Monday August 03, 2020 @08:53AM (#24037086)
Asylum seekers who can even get as far as the UK are necessarily richer and more resourceful than most — because the average monthly salary in e.g. Syria is 149,000 SYP [0] (~= 222 GBP) which means most of those who could even leave Syria in the first place had no real choice and had to flee to much closer places to Syria such as Turkey or Iraq [1], and those who can reach the UK will overwhelmingly be either be high-skilled, rich by dumb luck, or minors sent by their families.

This argument applies to basically all asylum seekers, not just those from the Syrian civil war.

That aside, how many unskilled jobs that don’t require idiomatic grasp of English in local accents (which would include cashiers, baristas, and other customer-facing roles) aren’t being replaced by robots and offshoring?

[0] http://www.salaryexplorer.com/salary-survey.php?loc=211&loct...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_W...

Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by DanBC on Monday August 03, 2020 @03:52PM (#24042529)
The discussion is about doctors who are seeking asylum not being allowed to work.

I don't know how you'd describe doctors as low-skilled.

Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by baq on Monday August 03, 2020 @05:12AM (#24035575)
Hope you’re joking but if not, that’s some amazingly shortsighted bad faith world view.
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Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by MrDresden on Monday August 03, 2020 @05:39AM (#24035739)
You are ofcourse entitled to your own opinions. But that does not mean others can't ridicule those opinions. Nor do you have a right to be listened to.
Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by frobozz on Monday August 03, 2020 @05:39AM (#24035740)
The left does not want people hooked on benefits. Paying benefits is expensive in a socialist society. The left wants workers who are properly compensated in line with the value they provide, and a social safety net for when they are unable to work.

You could say that the leadership of the right is desperate for immigration and to get people on benefits. Immigration gives nativists someone to look down on, making them easier to exploit. Paying sub-poverty-level benefits is cheap and makes the workforce desperate to accept just-about-poverty-level wages. The working class exists in order to frighten the middle class. The underclass exists to frighten the working class.

Also bear in mind that illegal immigrants do not get "hooked on benefits", they get deported or exploited by "economic libertarians".

Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by ben_w on Monday August 03, 2020 @06:05AM (#24035910)
Left and right are each many things; I think you have just as much a caricature of the other party as they have of you.
Re:Brexit fuels brain drain as skilled Britons head to the EU by frobozz on Monday August 03, 2020 @06:16AM (#24035983)
> I think you have just as much a caricature of the other party as they have of you.

That was the point.