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Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by getmeoutofhere on Saturday August 01, 2020 @08:33PM (#24025242)
I'll bite. Cite your sources and I'll address them.

> After reading your bio, I'm not surprised that it's full of comments defending the CCP.

Maybe it's because some of us grew up watching the horrors of the Iraq war, and the immense duplicity, chaos, and waste of human potential? Those who opposed the Iraq war were overwhelmingly silenced back then and I refuse to let the same happen now.

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Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by dang on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @12:44AM (#24046683)
You can't attack other users like this, and you've broken other guidelines as well.

Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting to HN.

Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by getmeoutofhere on Saturday August 01, 2020 @09:22PM (#24025498)
This is an alt account for personal safety and privacy reasons. People have tried to dig through my account (as you have done) and interfere with my personal life. In the past, I have received messages that have been a cause for concern while using my personal account.

For future reference, insinuating someone is a shill or a foreign agent is explicitly against HN guidelines, as it degrades the quality of the discussion.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by wadkar on Saturday August 01, 2020 @08:33PM (#24025240)
It would be great if you can share source/links to these claims you’re making.
Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by partiallypro on Saturday August 01, 2020 @08:53PM (#24025335)
If only we had some sort of system where we could easily search for such information (unless you live in China, where such results are hidden or monitored)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-puts-uighurs-uyghyrs-musl...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hair-weaves-chinese-prison-camp...

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/04/887239225/china-suppression-o...

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-harvesting-organs-of-u...

Not to mention the UN even acknowledges the existence of the camps and kidnappings.

Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by getmeoutofhere on Saturday August 01, 2020 @09:10PM (#24025449)
1. Where is the hard evidence? I saw a lot of B-roll footage with he-said-she-said, but no hard evidence of the organ harvesting or hair harvesting you claimed in your original post. We cannot rely on testimonials because as history shows [4], testimonials are easily fabricated.

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)

2. Actually cites the exact same Vice documentary you linked in (1).

3. Cites Rushan Abbas, who worked in Guantanamo and for Radio Free Asia (a literal US propaganda outlet) [5]

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rushan_Abbas

4. Quotes Adrian Zenz, which as I said in my original reply, cannot be considered a quality source. He doesn't speak, read, or write Chinese, and AFAIK hasn't spent anytime in China. His methodology for calculating the population of imprisoned Quighurs consists of interviewing a dozen people for estimations, and then extrapolating these figures across the entire population of Xinjiang. He produces figures, that on the face of it make no sense (1.8 million people imprisoned, three times the size of San Francisco). Is also NPR, which is US funded and cannot be considered an impartial source, given the geopolitical rivalry between China and the US.

As I said earlier, these claims all originate from the same sources (Adrian Zenz, World Uighur Congress), but if you dig into their methodologies or funding sources, you quickly see how murky the details get.

5. Cites Falun Gong, which is a literal cult, akin to Scientology. Experts at the WHO have called into question these claims [6], and the US embassy staff conducted an investigation in 2006 and found no such occurances [7]

[6] https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/08/20/transplant...

[7] https://web.archive.org/web/20090620050738/http:/www.america...