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Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by throwaway5792 on Friday July 31, 2020 @05:48PM (#24014581)
Apple's operating expenses for the last year was around $200bn.
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by Judgmentality on Friday July 31, 2020 @05:52PM (#24014615)
This a little misleading, as it's hard to imagine Apple making zero revenue well, ever. They could possibly be losing money, but there is no plausible scenario where they lose that much money. It's hard to imagine a scenario where they lose even an order of magnitude less money than that.
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by scarface74 on Friday July 31, 2020 @06:04PM (#24014755)
Just imagine the unlikely scenario that a pandemic shut down factories in China.....
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by wmf on Friday July 31, 2020 @06:13PM (#24014835)
That would probably also cut expenses. And if they got into a severe product shortage they could also turn off a lot of marketing.
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by scarface74 on Friday July 31, 2020 @06:14PM (#24014847)
What would they actually sell?
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by lostlogin on Friday July 31, 2020 @06:20PM (#24014894)
Services revenue is something they appear to be pushing hard and it seems to do well financially.
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by wmf on Friday July 31, 2020 @06:16PM (#24014868)
During a severe supply shortage they would sell nothing but they would also have lower expenses so the loss would be manageable.
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by NathanielLovin on Friday July 31, 2020 @07:37PM (#24015658)
Apple TV+, Apple Music, Apple Arcade, Apple News+, purchases of books, movies, TV shows, music their 30% cut of App Store revenues and subscriptions; the $99 developer fee for the App Store; Final Cut and Logic; Apple Card interest fees, iCloud subscriptions, probably other smaller scale things.
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by scarface74 on Friday July 31, 2020 @08:17PM (#24015983)
That’s less than 30% of their revenue. Right now, they can’t get new tv shows produced because of Covid.
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by AnthonyMouse on Friday July 31, 2020 @07:37PM (#24015650)
> What would they actually sell?

iPhones produced in India, presumably.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Made-in-India-iP...

Or in any other place.

Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by akmarinov on Saturday August 01, 2020 @04:52AM (#24018879)
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by Alupis on Friday July 31, 2020 @07:36PM (#24015647)
Overpriced iCloud storage, for starters. Or their 30% cut from all the apps sold in the App Store.

Even if they sold zero iPhones next year, there's still a lot of iPhones in the world that need services and apps.

Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by scarface74 on Friday July 31, 2020 @09:33PM (#24016492)
Apple charges less for iCloud storage than Dropbox.....
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by Alupis on Friday July 31, 2020 @09:43PM (#24016570)
And a lot more than Google Drive or even the 1TB Office365 gives you along with all the apps you were actually paying for.
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by stephenr on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:40PM (#24016901)
I don’t know if the pricing adjusts regionally but when I just checked for here, the google drive plans are exactly the same price as the iCloud plans, bar the bottom Google plan which is twice the price for twice the storage of the bottom iCloud plan.

How exactly is that “a lot more”?

Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by scarface74 on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:08PM (#24016729)
Well all of the equivalent iWork apps are free....
Re:Apple surpasses Saudi Aramco to become the most valuable ... by zepto on Friday July 31, 2020 @07:17PM (#24015456)
Or worse than Scarface’s example - everything they have in China gets permanently appropriated by the government, and they have to rebuild all the supply chains somewhere else.