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Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by adrianN on Thursday July 30, 2020 @11:33AM (#23999353)
Something getting downvoted is different from a study presenting solid data not getting published. As far as I know there is no solid data refuting the consensus as described for example in the IPCC reports.
Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by Udik on Thursday July 30, 2020 @11:47AM (#23999527)
But then maybe we should treat with the same scepticism studies diverging from the IPCC consensus in either direction. Those that downplay the risks of climate change as well as those that announce catastrophic outcomes that are not considered likely by the IPCC.
Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by adrianN on Friday July 31, 2020 @01:21AM (#24005929)
If you look at climate policy we treat everything with extreme skepticism that tells us any change is necessary. Announced climate goals fall way short of anything the IPCC reports would support, and implemented policies fall short even of those unambitious goals.
Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by cameronbrown on Thursday July 30, 2020 @01:31PM (#24000828)
If someone in academia spent serious time and money trying to disprove climate change, they would be laughed out of their job. But this is a horrible culture because we won't learn anything by publishing the same dogma over and over.

Even if you are 100% convinced climate change is happening (as most of us are), funding people who are trying to disprove it is a necessary and useful function of science.

Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by marcosdumay on Thursday July 30, 2020 @02:38PM (#24001513)
Every one in academia working towards proving that climate change is real is also working towards proving it's not real.

In fact, if you go into it with a pre-conceived bias that disagrees with everything everybody else has seen, you'll be laughed out of it. You should be laughed out of it too if your bias aligned with what everybody else has seen.

Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by cameronbrown on Thursday July 30, 2020 @10:18PM (#24005044)
Agree in theory, but alas, not in practice. Nobody's going to get funding for disproving/attacking climate theories.
Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by adrianN on Friday July 31, 2020 @01:19AM (#24005920)
But everyone is getting funding for collecting new and looking at existing data and thinking of new ways to validate that our climate models can be trusted. If they happen to find evidence that disagrees with the established theory they're in great luck because surprising results get published whereas confirming what we know lands in third tier journals.
Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by cameronbrown on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @07:29AM (#24048850)
Just having the mindset of "we need to validate this" isn't enough. Having the mindset of trying to disprove a theory encourages people to look in new areas. Diversity of thought is important because a monoculture stalls innovation and creativity.
Re:Anti-climate action statements get more visibility in new... by SpicyLemonZest on Thursday July 30, 2020 @12:09PM (#23999797)
There isn't, but I frankly think that many people would call the IPCC consensus "anti-climate action" if you summarized it without telling them what it was. The IPCC consensus doesn't predict anything tremendously apocalyptic; they just think the required adaptations will be disruptive and costly, enough so that some countries won't be able to afford them.