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Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by ideals on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:26AM (#23987683)
Flat Earther is not one of the options available from what I can tell. I suppose it falls under conspiracist although that is a pretty broad category.

Fruitarian, Prepper, Liberal, Conservative, Conspiracist, Climate Denier

The web design is really good! And it's funded by Mozilla which is cool

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by TulliusCicero on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:29AM (#23987711)
Some of the prepper videos actually look kinda cool. Lots of DIY stuff.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by grogenaut on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @03:06PM (#23990441)
This is part of the prepper hole. Also it's like one upping the Jones. I'm more off grid than u!
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by RIMR on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:33AM (#23987766)
Preppers are just paranoid DIYers.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by drewcoo on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:42AM (#23987915)
predicting problems + planning prevention = preparedness

Preppers seem paranoid because mental health is a normative social function and they're on an edge of the spectrum.

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by tantalor on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @05:51PM (#23991972)
> normative social function

?

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by chordalkeyboard on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:30PM (#23994305)
not the person you replied to but they probably mean that mental health is defined by a range of acceptable behaviors and they are close to the edge of the range.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by ballenf on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:38AM (#23987845)
Civilization short-selling + DIY.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by rhacker on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:43AM (#23987934)
I would have thought that no one would use the word paranoid to describe a prepper after that many deaths, but here we are.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by jopsen on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:53AM (#23988109)
Would 1% risk of death be enough for you to isolate yourself from society 2-3 years until we have widespread vaccine adoption?

Preparing for the end of civilization is perhaps a bit paranoid (I hope), or at least somewhat pointless :)

Side note: that said there is probably many reasonable DIY outdoor enthusiasts who gets categorized as preppers.

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by rhacker on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @12:04PM (#23988294)
Um, absolutely Yes. In fact that's what we have and Yes I have been isolating myself. I'm waiting for case counts to drop to 0 before I go back. There's probably a fair number of people like that.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by eggsnbacon1 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:34AM (#23987787)
lol so true
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by ideals on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:52AM (#23988098)
Now that I've had a chance to click through each of the sections and browse different days I want to follow up.

First, a lot of the videos are pretty old, multiple years old. That seems weird but idk maybe that's how YouTube works I guess.

There's not a lot of variety in the channels on each section. This is likely due to what subscriptions are setup.

Most of the videos are pretty tame. I've seen a lot worse casually browsing YT so I think being able to crank it up to 11 would be a fun feature of the site.

Observations based solely on what I saw,

Fruitarians seem to be about eating healthy and working out.

Preppers are about diy living off the grid and less about stockpiling guns.

Liberals watch a lot of comedy news type shows and music reviews. Most of their focus is what Republicans are doing

Conservatives have a show featuring Tito Ortiz who is famous for taking a lot of brain damage in the UFC which I thought was funny. More to their category tho, it featured a lot of videos doing "gotchas" on liberals.

Conspiracists watch a lot of videos by some guy named Shane and unsolved mysteries videos.

Climate Deniers I think this channel wasn't tuned right or maybe they really do watch a lot of videos put out by the oil industry (they aren't obfuscating this)

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by nemosaltat on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:04PM (#23989039)
Came to say the same. The notes mention that the profiles are updated daily, I wonder if “Flat Earther” used to be a profile. Perhaps reimertz chose that post title because it concisely conveys the spirit of the site, even if it isn’t an actual option.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by creaghpatr on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:37AM (#23987836)
What's a fruitarian?
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by sydd on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:40AM (#23987889)
A stricter form of veganism, where you only eat raw fruit. Steve Jobs and Gandhi was fruitarian too; usually such people practice indian spiritualism in some form too (e.g. yoga)
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by grardb on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @12:17PM (#23988446)
Not quite. Veganism is a belief system, whereas fruitarianism is a diet. The latter is compatible with veganism since the diet contains no animal products, but you can be a fruitarian who exploits animals in a non-dietary fashion (e.g. wearing leather, buying products tested on animals, etc.).

Also, my understanding is that at least some fruitarians allow for some amount of nuts/seeds and leafy greens, but I don't know if that's universally accepted.

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by hombre_fatal on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @04:44PM (#23991399)
The wiki page of veganism disambiguates between dietary vegans and ethical vegans.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by grardb on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @06:14PM (#23992179)
It does, but that page was likely written by non-vegans, who in general have a hard time seeing past the dietary aspect of veganism, since it's the biggest obstacle to becoming a vegan for most people.

As I point out in another comment[1], the origins of veganism are very much rooted in animal rights. I grew up vegetarian, but I would never refer to myself as a "dietary Hindu." There's a lot more to it than just the diet!

Typically, a vegan would refer to someone following a vegan diet as a "plant-based dieter" in order to distinguish between the groups.

FWIW, I became a vegetarian at age seven (22 years ago) and became vegan a little over three years ago, and never in my life have I heard or seen the terms "dietary vegan" or "moral vegetarian" which are both mentioned in the Wikipedia article.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23992110

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by sneak on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @04:13PM (#23991052)
I know plenty of non-ethical vegans. Vegan can also simply be a diet, as it is quite healthy, without bringing along the whole of the animal rights baggage (right or wrong).
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by grardb on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @06:06PM (#23992110)
This is a definition only used by non-vegans. The word "vegan" was coined by Donald Watson in 1944, the founder of The Vegan Society. Their definition of veganism is:

> A philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

The recent rise in interest in plant-based eating—while awesome—has unfortunately caused a lot of confusion about what veganism is. Many people who start following a vegan diet for health or environmental reasons* eventually become vegan, but this isn't always the case.

* FWIW, my interest was sparked by environmental concerns.

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by yesenadam on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @07:37PM (#23992741)
> This is a definition only used by non-vegans.

Hmm..mostly I agree with what you say in your 3 comments, (longtime vegan here, for ethical reasons) but this seems going too far. This is just a guess, which my evidence suggests is not correct, and it seems very odd presenting it as a certain fact. If someone has a vegan diet, sure I would call them vegan. What else?! (Well, I don't think I've come across someone who is vegan for non-ethical reasons, like their own health - vegetarian, yes, but not vegan.) I do avoid animal products, but I don't think of that as part of, or the same thing as, being vegan.

Words don't always mean what they used to, or what some dictionary or society says. Meanings evolve and can't (mostly) be controlled. It seems the word, like many others, now has multiple meanings, and calling the use of other meanings than the one you prefer "confusion about what veganism is" seems..a political move, trying to attract/convert people to your cause[0], and not how it seems to you, a grammatical move to try to keep the Unchanging True Meaning untainted. I guess what you say makes sense if you only call people "vegan" when they use the word the same as you. Then, by definition, it's a definition only used by non-vegans. But the sentence I quoted appears to make much stronger claims, and it seems false to me. Well, I know it's false, as I'm a vegan in your sense, but use the word to mean someone with a vegan diet.

[0] i.e. the cause of using the word the same way you do.

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by sneak on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @07:53PM (#23992842)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

> No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample.[1][2] Rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule: "no true Scotsman would do such a thing"; i.e., those who perform that action are not part of our group and thus criticism of that action is not criticism of the group.

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by grardb on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @08:05PM (#23992932)
Sure, but the difference here is that there is no one person who coined the term "Scotsman" with a specific definition of what a Scotsman is...
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by ideals on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:39AM (#23987869)
Remember how Steve Jobs only ate fruit? It's that.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by lhorie on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @12:01PM (#23988252)
I suppose a more interesting question is why is fruitarian an option there? Is there some subset of that community that is overly pushy about their beliefs, or is there some inherent hidden danger in listening to "fruitarian gurus"? Do they fall somewhere near groups like breatharians?

I'm not really familiar w/ that subculture, so I'm legitimately curious.

Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by brunt on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:52AM (#23988092)
I didn't know either but I like the 3-hour relaxing music video that was recommended to them. After a few minutes of that I thought, "How bad could they be?"
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by jabroni_salad on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:40AM (#23987879)
Seems like that category is a mixture of vegan and no-cook meals.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by tonyedgecombe on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:48AM (#23988030)
Someone with a blender and a warped idea of a healthy diet.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by zacharycohn on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:39AM (#23987859)
Someone who only eats fruit.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by MattGaiser on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:40AM (#23987880)
A type of vegan.
Re:TheirTube – How do the recommended videos look on their Y... by grardb on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @12:17PM (#23988457)