Re:Almost half of all jobs lost during pandemic may be gone ...
by ThrowawayR2 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:25AM
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Quoting from the article:
"In April, 78% of those in households experiencing job loss felt that that situation would be temporarily. But now, 47% think that job loss is likely to be permanent, according to The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research."
It's based on an opinion poll rather than number of businesses closed or some more solid number. A better title might be that "Half of those who have lost their jobs believe they may be gone permanently".
Re:Almost half of all jobs lost during pandemic may be gone ...
by dang on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @03:39PM
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Would you please review the site guidelines and stick to the rules when posting here? Your recent comments have been breaking them. Note that they include:
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."
"Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."
Re:Almost half of all jobs lost during pandemic may be gone ...
by craftyguy on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:18PM
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The title doesn't mention feelings or thoughts, so I have no idea what you are going on about. OP is correct, this title this title tries to masquerade opinion as fact, and is total misleading clickbait.
Re:Almost half of all jobs lost during pandemic may be gone ...
by chrisco255 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:35PM
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Sure, but anything that can happen, may happen. The world may end tomorrow. That's entirely within the realm of universal possibility, but it is also entirely unlikely and therefore clickbait.
Re:Almost half of all jobs lost during pandemic may be gone ...
by supercanuck on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:45PM
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but this article didn't say anything can happen, it is measuring a shift in the opinions of those who became unemployed during the pandemic, and the context of this is congress is currently negotiating a stimulus package to help those in need.
My question to the OP, and maybe you, is why does that not matter to you?
I don't see how that is deceptive, sensationalized or misleading to be considered clickbait
Re:Almost half of all jobs lost during pandemic may be gone ...
by chrisco255 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @02:26PM
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Here's a proper, non-clickbaity title for that description: "Many fear permanent job loss" or "Job loss anxiety grows" or "Nearly half of all workers fear permanent job loss". There's a difference between statistical probability based on economic analysis and sentimental analysis based on current mood. Sentiment does matter, but it's also easy to be unrealistically pessimistic in the midst of a trough.
Re:Almost half of all jobs lost during pandemic may be gone ...
by supercanuck on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @02:33PM
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Sorry I find your suggestions unacceptable because the point of the article, and I think this is the root of your where your misinterpretation stems from, is there is a measurable change in the opinions of those who lost their job. Before they felt like the jobs would come back, now they think they are permanent.
That is a loss in confidence. your alternative titles contain no such information and aren't accurately describing what is happening.
I'm just going to ignore the rest of your analysis because it doesn't seem to be relevant and distracts from the point.
Re:Almost half of all jobs lost during pandemic may be gone ...
by chrisco255 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @02:46PM
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The loss of confidence is the story. That is not reflected in the headline. The story is about sentiment. The headline implies a more serious undertone. It's not irrelevant. Clickbait and sensationalism is a big problem these days, if you haven't noticed. In fact, it may lead to the collapse of Western civilization. At least, that's my feelings on the matter anyways.
"In April, 78% of those in households experiencing job loss felt that that situation would be temporarily. But now, 47% think that job loss is likely to be permanent, according to The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research."
It's based on an opinion poll rather than number of businesses closed or some more solid number. A better title might be that "Half of those who have lost their jobs believe they may be gone permanently".
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."
"Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."
I've added the definitions for you, because I am genuinly confused:
may /mā/ verb 1.expressing possibility. "that may be true"
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fact /fakt/noun a thing that is known or proved to be true.
My question to the OP, and maybe you, is why does that not matter to you?
I don't see how that is deceptive, sensationalized or misleading to be considered clickbait
That is a loss in confidence. your alternative titles contain no such information and aren't accurately describing what is happening.
I'm just going to ignore the rest of your analysis because it doesn't seem to be relevant and distracts from the point.