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Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by iagovar on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @07:24AM (#23974559)
Yeah, this situation seems quite worrying. It was already worrying with only two x86 companies (VIA is leagues behind).

It would also be nice to have some capable foundries in Europe, like STM or Infineon. Just in case.

Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by paulmd on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @05:51PM (#23981068)
If there is one company with the will, the liquid cash, and the volume to break away from TSMC, it is Apple. Just saying.

They design their own chips in-house, they are moving to use them across their full stack, they are already TSMC's #1 customer by a wide margin, and they could literally build a 3nm fab with 40k wafers per month with less than 10% of the liquid cash they have on hand ($5b for the node and $15b for the fab). And they are the type of company who brings everything possible in-house, and the type of company who looks at a single-source monopoly like TSMC as a business risk. Fabs are literally the last part of their hardware/software stack that they don't control and that another company could potentially leverage them over.

Right now there is no alternative to TSMC, people literally pre-eulogize NVIDIA Ampere and other products simply because they're on Samsung instead of TSMC. How do you think that looks to a company like Apple, that they are completely dependent on this company for node tech and subject to increasing competition for wafers as everybody else realizes there is no alternative and piles in too?

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/272096-3nm-process-nod...

Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by bitL on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @08:25AM (#23974966)
Was Dresden GF foundry shut down?
Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by gsnedders on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @11:56AM (#23977082)
No, it's still going. Not sure they're producing anything below 22nm, though, and purely low-power (FDSOI) parts.

There's also TI's site in Freising which is a notable fab producing analogue parts.

Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by NicoJuicy on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @07:26AM (#23974571)
ASML?
Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by ragebol on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @07:32AM (#23974610)
ASML is not a foundry. ASML makes (part of) the machines that make up a foundry.
Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by jp555 on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @08:17AM (#23974917)
just "machines", or a key EUV machine that only ASML makes?
Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by Keyframe on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @08:26AM (#23974974)
Also, Intel owns like 15% of ASML.
Re:Intel Ponte Vecchio GPU Will Be Made on TSMC 6nm Process,... by tooltalk on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @08:57AM (#23975192)
Well, not quite. All foundry players, eg, TSMC, Intel, and Samsung invested heavily in ASML in effort to jumpstart EUV development. They significantly reduced their financial stakes to a low single digit since as the tech matured.

https://www.eetimes.com/intel-again-cuts-stake-in-asml/#