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Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by barnesto on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:24PM (#23968482)
marketing is not propaganda.
Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by dragonwriter on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:43PM (#23968663)
“Propaganda" comes from the former name of the Roman Catholic central body tasked with marketing the faith, currently known as the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, but from 1622-1967 it was the Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith, or, in Latin Sacra Congregatio de Propaganda Fide.

Marketing is exactly propaganda, the deliberate propagation of particular beliefs to motivate desired action.

And government promotion of it's military is pretty much at the core of the common understanding of propaganda, not some obscure connection.

Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by coldtea on Monday July 27, 2020 @05:05PM (#23969372)
State marketing is the literal definition of propaganda...
Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by dredmorbius on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @01:11AM (#23972488)
Actually church marketing, originally.

(The pejorative state sense came out of German First World War influence campaigns.)

https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda

The state/marketing usage is predominant today though:

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/propaganda

Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by willis936 on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:36PM (#23968598)
Uncle Sam Wants You! To explain how that is remotely true.
Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by Raidion on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:36PM (#23968601)
The line is very blurry. Political marketing could easily be called propaganda.

First google definition is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."

It's very easy to see how in a period of naval troubles (various collisions in the pacific, Bon Homme Richard, China in the South Sea), this could be considered advancing the US political position of the navy.

I really like Destin and think this isn't propaganda, but it is a recruiting tool for the Navy. If you're not constantly looking out for possible sources of bias in your information, there are a lot of people/organizations out there that will gladly lead you to conclusions that aren't 100% accurate.

Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by saaaaaam on Monday July 27, 2020 @04:13PM (#23968929)
Marketing for the military capacity of a state is pretty much the definition of propaganda :)
Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by DyslexicAtheist on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:35PM (#23968587)
how then would propaganda be defined? It is the attempt to sway a targets opinion in your favor. Propaganda is "the formation of peoples attitudes"[1] as is marketing.

[1] Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M...

Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by meroes on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:36PM (#23968596)
It literally is though
Re:Sailor pictured with laser rifle on board USS Minnesota n... by dredmorbius on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @12:49AM (#23972383)
Edward Bernays, father of modern advertising and public relations, Propaganda (1928):

https://archive.org/details/bernays-edward-l.-propaganda-192...