> cluttered and ugly
I won’t argue with you about visuals because I don’t think they’re all that important. But, I think it’s undeniable that reusing the same syntactic concepts across different semantic use cases is quite a lot more logically clean & beautiful than introducing new syntax that other HN commenters with past python experience can’t even understand. If someone sees the JS named parameter syntax at a declaration and has any JS experience, they’ll almost certainly figure out what to do - if someone sees the asterisk, even with Python experience, they’ll think “what the heck is this asterisk?” And again, the other commenters on this thread are clear evidence that this is indeed as unintuitive as I describe.
There's a collection of 0 arguments. the "∗" was introduced specifically as a shortcut for:
def foo(a, *ignore, b):
if ignore:
raise TypeError
forgoing the name simply signals to the language that it should collect nothing.It's a logical extension of the assumption that anything which follows `∗arg` is a keyword-only parameter.
*args
creates a catch-all variadic function parameter called `args` which matches all positional parameters not heretofore assigned *
(same operator, without a name following) indicates that no more positional parameters may be matched after this pointThey are close enough cognitively to warrant reuse IMO.
I think it's much more beautiful and convenient than your JS example which in all honesty looks necessary cluttered and ugly.