Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological obsolescence

Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by zabil on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:49AM (#23940907)

Major IT companies in India get a lot of revenue from maintainence projects and there is usually no scope for making major changes or innovating there.

The time and material billing for these make it quite attractive from a revenue point vs fixed bid greenfield projects. I don't think that situation will change anytime time soon as along as these companies stick to services.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by vvram on Friday July 24, 2020 @12:59PM (#23941808)

This 100% it's not a problem with talent alone or their approach to their problems presented to them. It's what they are engaged on and that's controlled by the consumers of these services.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by baybal2 on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:59AM (#23941038)

Yes, one word to say — JAVA.

It's pretty much, the one and only thing that keeps enterprisey software maintainance people occupied.

Thought, the Java is finally on decline on the backend. Android is pulling Java devs from enterprise, and cheaper to use languages displace Java there.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by dclusin on Friday July 24, 2020 @12:04PM (#23941105)

Java’s still going to be in use long after we’re both dead.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by kbrisso on Friday July 24, 2020 @01:21PM (#23942050)

This is so very true. I just migrated a 17 year old Struts 1.* app with most of my team in India from Weblogic to Tomee. It's a mission critical application with 400 users during business hours. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by theflyinghorse on Friday July 24, 2020 @12:43PM (#23941603)

There is nothing wrong with Java. Modern Java is pretty nice to use, fairly fast, has an incredible amount of libraries and tooling to do just about anything you want to do and a vast pool of talent to draw from.

At my current job I try to stick to Java for any new services because it's a great overall language.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by novok on Friday July 24, 2020 @04:55PM (#23944327)

People don't like Java for the same reasons they don't like Jira. It's all the culture surrounding it.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by caoilte on Friday July 24, 2020 @08:27PM (#23945864)

The JIRA culture would be fine if the software wasn't a total piece of crap.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by sidlls on Saturday July 25, 2020 @06:04PM (#23952761)

Almost all mainstream languages are nice to use, have sufficient tooling, and are fast enough for almost any purpose one might care to apply it to.

Java has become an enterprise language and is associated strongly with many negative elements of enterprise culture, though. "Written in Java" may as well be "designed by committee" or something out of a Dilbert comic or Pentagon Wars chimera.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by jen20 on Friday July 24, 2020 @12:10PM (#23941173)

> Thought, the Java is finally on decline on the back

Is there any evidence this is actually the case?

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by noble_pleb on Friday July 24, 2020 @12:07PM (#23941142)

Not just Java, there is a lot of old Microsoft tech floating around too. VB6 and old versions of .NET and MSSQL are still common in many enterprises.

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Re:Indian IT consultancies struggle against technological ob... by JAlexoid on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:42PM (#23944789)

> Thought, the Java is finally on decline on the backend.

There's not much decline of Java overall, just a shift. The pie is getting bigger.

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