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Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by drfuchs on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:51AM (#23937592)
No, Latanya Sweeney has absolutely nothing to do with Differential Privacy. The author seems to have confused her with Cynthia Dwork.
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by iforgotmyaka on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:35AM (#23937838)
I cannot cite 12 men who technically inflenced the history of computer science.

Top of mind, I have Alan Turing, Dennis Richie, Bjarne Sroustrup, Richard Stallman and Linus Torvald.

And yes, for the women, I have the three that the author does not want to hear about.

Maybe it's time to stop being paranoid.

Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by arexxbifs on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:50AM (#23937586)
Needs more Adele Goldberg.
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by merricksb on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:22AM (#23937761)
Discussed 5 months ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22304603 (232 points/61 comments)

Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by interfixus on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:15AM (#23937722)
"Sophie Wilson - Designed the ARM instruction set"

This is disingenuous. Sophie Wilson was Roger Wilson and unquestionably a man in the early eighties when that work was done.

Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by dragonwriter on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:31AM (#23937801)
> Sophie Wilson was Roger Wilson and unquestionably a man in the early eighties when that work was done.

That someone had not yet gone public with a transgender identity does not support this description.

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Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by dragonwriter on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:35AM (#23937828)
> Yeah, if you're looking for a list of women doing important things in computer science to inspire young girls, you really really don't want MtF people there, it gives the opposite impression.

You seem to assume both that young girls can't be young trans girls, which is not true [0], and further that young cisgender girls can't be inspired by adult transgender women, which is, at least, not obviously correct.

[0] https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/young-tr...

Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by underdeserver on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:53AM (#23937600)
Also missing Éva Tardos, former dean of CS at Cornell who wrote Algorithm Design and did significant research on propagation in social networks.
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by Jugurtha on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:06AM (#23937672)
Sandy Lerner, co-founder of Cisco systems. (for memo)
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by aspenmayer on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:48AM (#23937576)
No Ada Lovelace? For shame. Or is this contemporary women? Seems like a major oversight.

> Augusta Ada King, Countess of Lovelace (née Byron; 10 December 1815 – 27 November 1852) was an English mathematician and writer, chiefly known for her work on Charles Babbage's proposed mechanical general-purpose computer, the Analytical Engine. She was the first to recognise that the machine had applications beyond pure calculation, and published the first algorithm intended to be carried out by such a machine. As a result, she is widely regarded as the first to recognise the full potential of computers and one of the first computer programmers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by xwvvvvwx on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:49AM (#23937580)
The very first sentance of the post is: "I’m tired of hearing about Grace Hopper, Margaret Hamilton, and Ada Lovelace."
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by aspenmayer on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:52AM (#23937596)
Well I’m not tired of it. She deserved a bullet point, and so did Grace Hopper. You don’t have to exclude potentially the most influential people in the entire field, man or woman, just to prove a point that other women also are majorly changing the world in other ways or disciplines. It’s two more bullet points. Come on.

Feels like an excuse for a clickbait headline. The post is good! Good content doesn’t always speak loudly enough, unfortunately, so clickbait titles are the metric becoming a target.

Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by platinumrad on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:02AM (#23937645)
The whole point is that the reader is presumably already familiar with those figures.
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by globular-toast on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:04AM (#23937659)
The extent of Ada Lovelace's contribution is unclear. There is a strong bias towards embellishing a nice story ("the first programmer was female"). There's evidence that many of "her" programs were actually written by Babbage.
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by aspenmayer on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:20AM (#23937755)
I never said she was the first, but I don’t disagree. She was still in the room when it happened, and she published her findings. Kind of a big deal for a woman of her time.

> According to what Lovelace’s biographer Betty Alexandra Toole, author of Ada, The Enchantress of Numbers: Poetical Science (Strawberry Press, 1998) explained to OpenMind, “she saw what Babbage did not see: the machine might work on other things beside numbers, e.g. symbols.” For Swade, Lovelace was “remarkably visionary” and “saw the reach of computers extending beyond mathematics into life and science.” Woolley recalls the fact that Lovelace noticed how the punch card system of Babbage’s machine was similar to that of the complex looms of the time.” When she observed that ‘the Analytical Engine weaves algebraic patterns just as the Jacquard loom weaves flowers and leaves’, she showed what imagination could reveal that mathematics alone could not.”

https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/technology/visionaries/ada-l...

Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by globular-toast on Friday July 24, 2020 @06:46AM (#23937902)
Well she was an extremely privileged woman. Same with Grace Hopper. They both had unique access to one-of-a-kind equipment at the time. So you're really not saying much more than she was in a unique position in history. Being important to computer science and just "being along for the ride" are two different things. The difference with Grace Hopper is that she very clearly made contributions that still affect us to this day. It's not so clear when it comes to Lovelace.
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by arexxbifs on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:49AM (#23937583)
Line 1 of the article: "I’m tired of hearing about Grace Hopper, Margaret Hamilton, and Ada Lovelace."
Re:Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper (2018) by 55555 on Friday July 24, 2020 @05:49AM (#23937579)
No Margaret Hamilton either. Rude.