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Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by seertaak on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @10:56AM (#23917708)
> Yeah I noped out of this as soon as I saw it.

I must be misunderstanding you; I read that as you stopped reading the entire thread because there was a single point you disagree with. Is that what you mean?

Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by klyrs on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @11:11AM (#23917850)
Suppose the first slide of my 10 minute sales deck described building a house out of literal waffles, and letting customers eat those waffles. Would you actually pay attention to the other 9 minutes?

Overlooking the fact that if I attempted such a thing it would be amusing as hell. Imagine somebody taking that idea very seriously.

Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by CalChris on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @11:42AM (#23918194)
Waffle House exists [1] and so this sounds likes like a buried lede which is way better than most pitches. I've heard worse, much worse.

[1] https://www.wafflehouse.com/

Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by tedivm on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @12:01PM (#23918418)
There's a difference between "sells waffles" and "constructions a house using waffles as the building material", and I'm reasonably sure the second one doesn't exist.
Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by sjm-lbm on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @12:52PM (#23918953)
I feel like the point is "you never know when an apparently crazy idea will turn into something reasonable, so you should always stick with someone until the end of their pitch and/or point."

Admittedly, I'm not sure that's universally true (we all have a limited amount of time, and it's reasonable to focus that time in places where it is going to give us the most benefit), but I'm pretty sure I see where the commenter is coming from.

Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by bananaface on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @02:13PM (#23919890)
Ahh yes, the famous "pivot" from building a house out of waffles to selling waffles.
Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by Apocryphon on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @03:31PM (#23920670)
Waffle House would probably get great mileage with a publicity stunt building a house made of waffles. Hearken back to Hansel and Gretel, use it to host a waffle-eating contest, donate excess pastries to charity. Could really revitalize the brand.
Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by klyrs on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @04:21PM (#23921152)
Y'all are missing the truly horrible part of my idea (though Hansel & Gretel is about the right idea). After the house is built, the customers are intended to eat the house itself. I didn't flesh out the whole idea in my comment, but they should be inside the house while eating it. If it's big enough to warrant the name "house" (not "shack" nor "misshapen pile") then it's big enough for its inevitable collapse to endanger the customers.

Responding further upthread: this is an illustration of a "time waster." They exist on both sides (investors / founders, salespeople / customers, etc) and recognizing them is an important skill. Time is your most valuable resource. Use it wisely.

Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by bananaface on Thursday July 23, 2020 @04:37AM (#23925376)
What about if you just make & sell Italian food?

See, there are no bad companies, all companies can pivot. In fact the original idea doesn't matter at all. Hurr durr buy my startup book

Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by sushshshsh on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @11:17AM (#23917916)
Yeah people who use this phrase "noped out of it" usually have little tolerance for things they disagree with and won't continue diving deeper for nuance or any redeeming thoughts present in the article (which may or may not be there)
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Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by softawre on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @12:09PM (#23918497)
You're mocking the OP, saying he doesn't understand humans or have any empathy, based on a single statement you disagree with.
Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by ryguytilidie on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:22PM (#23933245)
I mean, at this point you seem to be upset that I'm judging someone for their statements and actions? What else is there to judge people by?
Re:Y Combinator has lost its soul: A YC founder's perspective by dbbk on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:46AM (#23925963)
Yes, I think this single point is so moronic that it doesn't warrant entertaining anything further. Saying that a founder should go into personal debt, and if they don't they don't "believe" in their business enough, is mind-boggling.