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Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by unethical_ban on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @07:49PM (#23912203)
On the surface, the Constitution specifically cites a role for the federal government in operating a postal service.

Now, why does it have exclusivity for letter service? I don't know the history.

I'd rather look at how it can do an already pretty good job, better. I know I go to USPS when I ship anything.

Why isn't it in the banking business? Why doesn't it operate an official email / Identity Provider? Among other services that a correspondence service, a federal service with the most physical public spaces, could offer?

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by sdinsn on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @07:55PM (#23912253)
> specifically cites a role for the federal government in operating a postal service.

It specifically grants Congress the power to operate a postal service. Just because they have the power doesn't mean they have to do it.

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by bhupy on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @07:56PM (#23912258)
The Constitution argument merely answers why things are the way that they are, they don't tell us whether the privatized model we see in the UK/Germany/Singapore/Japan is better or worse.

> I'd rather look at how it can do an already pretty good job, better. I know I go to USPS when I ship anything.

When it comes to packages, USPS vs UPS vs FedEx have their pros/cons, but the options mean that most end user's needs are met, whatever they are. The question is why USPS enjoys a state sanctioned monopoly on paper mail specifically.

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by runako on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @08:06PM (#23912357)
> The question is why USPS enjoys a state sanctioned monopoly on paper mail specifically.

I'm curious -- can you link to more detail about this? I've never had trouble sending paper mail through UPS or FedEx. What does the monopoly cover, specifically?

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by bhupy on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @08:15PM (#23912428)
Sure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#U...

By law, private corporations aren't allowed to deliver anything to your mailbox, only the USPS can.

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by runako on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @08:27PM (#23912536)
Thanks!

On the one hand, it seems unfair. On the other hand, since they don't have any cost-competitive offerings, it seems like a non-issue. I'm a big fan of the USPS, but if it looked like FedEx could help push the letter rate down, I would be a fan of revoking that law. (If a private carrier committed to serving 100% of the USPS coverage area.)

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by treis on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @10:56PM (#23913476)
They don't have a cost competitive option because they're not allowed to offer one. They can only deliver "extremely urgent material" by law.
Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by runako on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @08:05PM (#23912348)
> why does it have exclusivity for letter service?

It doesn't have exclusivity for letter service. UPS, FedEx, and DHL (among others) will carry letters across the country for you.

Yes, it's going to cost ~$10 to roughly match the service speed of a USPS first-class stamp. But it's available.

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by missedthecue on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @09:04PM (#23912835)
The post office does indeed have a legal monopoly on first class mail.
Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by brendoelfrendo on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @09:37PM (#23913062)
Hasn't this been worked around, though? I can take a letter or other paper documents to FedEx, and they will ship it. It will be more expensive than USPS, though.
Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by missedthecue on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @09:39PM (#23913077)
it is more expensive because it must be shipped as a parcel rather than a letter. They can't ship it as a letter because it's not legal to.
Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by brendoelfrendo on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @10:24PM (#23913324)
I guess I don't understand the logistical difference, then, because that sounds like a semantic difference to me. What stops FedEx from saying "we ship this parcel for the same price as USPS ships a letter"?
Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by relaxing on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @11:18PM (#23913592)
One major restriction is a prohibition on offering delivery on a regular (daily) schedule. The relevant statutes also call out restrictions on price of postage as a multiple of the going postal rate, as well weight of the parcel. The USPS also has exclusive access to mailboxes.
Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by treis on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @11:00PM (#23913495)
They're prohibited by law:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/39/320.6

There are minimums they can charge and some speed requirements.

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by runako on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @11:20PM (#23913597)
Per the USPS, it looks like there is an opening in law:

https://about.usps.com/publications/pub542/pub542_ch5_001.ht...

USPS has to get paid the going rate for postage. But given that no private carriers are within a factor of 10 of USPS pricing, that seems like it's not the barrier here. (Also: much easier to make the argument that the $1.00 letter service from FedEx could be $0.45 if Congress would update the relevant law.)

This really looks like the private carriers have carved off the profitable part (rapid delivery) and leave USPS with the hard, unprofitable part (delivery to 100% of addresses, for $0.55).

Re:The Billionaire Behind Efforts to Kill the U.S. Postal Se... by treis on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @11:30PM (#23913646)
I'm not sure how you reached your interpretation. The USPS is not barred from urgent delivery and has a competing product. They're just not as good at it as the private companies are.

As for regular mail, they don't offer that because it's impossible to compete when you have to pay your competitor for every sale you make.