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Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by blibble on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @05:30AM (#23905506)
NI, Scotland and Wales leaving would make England one of the richest countries in Europe (by capita), which would vastly increase its EU budget contributions

this makes Leave's argument better, not worse

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by rwmj on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @05:32AM (#23905520)
Only if we continue to be wealthy, which is not so certain right now.
Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by blibble on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @05:44AM (#23905588)
now you're really stretching it
Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by rwmj on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @06:43AM (#23905801)
We're already 20-30% worse off because of the fall in currency and perhaps a hundred billion £ worse off because of Brexit, and we haven't begun the full amputation of our trading relations yet. We'll see anyway. Chin up, hope for the best and all that!
Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by blibble on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @06:56AM (#23905858)
the worst predictions are 6.7% lost GDP growth over 15 years (note: GDP growth, not actual GDP)

or around 0.35% a year, which isn't going to make the UK into a poor nation (and if Scotland, NI and Wales left it then England's would skyrocket)

meanwhile, in reality: the virus has knocked 20% off actual GDP in 4 months

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by rwmj on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @07:00AM (#23905881)
A bit more than that actually: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/28/uk-signific... We don't really know what the second-order effects will be, such as the brightest people moving abroad and companies permanently closing or leaving, as well as the general loss of influence.

I expect that we'll regain the 20% fairly quickly once the virus threat abates, but the Brexit loses are a permanent drag.

Anyway as I said in my comment above, we don't fully know, but we're sure going to find out soon enough.

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by blibble on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @07:04AM (#23905895)
the exact same story a year later says 6.7%: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/17/uk-lost-gdp...

> We don't really know what the second-order effects will be, such as the brightest people moving abroad and companies permanently closing or leaving, as well as the general loss of influence.

so what do you think they were modelling? nothing at all?

> I expect that we'll regain the 20% fairly quickly once the virus threat abates, but the Brexit loses are a permanent drag.

a reduction in growth is not a overall loss, sorry

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by tonyedgecombe on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @02:58AM (#23914603)
You can still be poorer with constant GDP if the exchange rates have moved against you. That holiday in France I'm about to book got more expensive as a direct consequence of Brexit. The same goes for everything else we import (which is a lot).