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Re:Cloudflare outage on July 17, 2020 by spenczar5 on Saturday July 18, 2020 @04:12AM (#23879904)
> The minute Cloudflare seems problematic, make it 0% 100% to bypass Cloudflare’s infrastructure completely. This should be tested periodically to ensure that your backends are able to scale & take the load without shedding due to the lack of CDN.

How do you justify the cost? I'm seriously asking - I have had a hard time making this pitch myself, I am curious if you have (recent!) experience with this.

Re:Cloudflare outage on July 17, 2020 by nolok on Saturday July 18, 2020 @05:00AM (#23880093)
Ah that one is surprinsingly easy, you justify the cost by facing facts. Did your company lose money during the downtime, and if yes is that sum more than what it would cost to have this redundancy ?

No ? Then the costs are not justified, and while it would be better from a tech perspective it makes no business sense.

Yes ? Well then you spend X to save Y, with Y being greater than X, so it's an easy sell as long you don't start with "cloudflare is never down" (which is not true).

Re:Cloudflare outage on July 17, 2020 by dannyw on Saturday July 18, 2020 @05:27AM (#23880185)
I always assume a service (eg Cloudflare, AWS availability zone) will be completely down for a minimum of 30 minutes, once a year.

It’s worked surprisingly well.

Re:Cloudflare outage on July 17, 2020 by hpkuarg on Saturday July 18, 2020 @12:19PM (#23882422)
Yeah, that's roughly 99.99% availability, which sounds reasonable for most anything you want to depend on.
Re:Cloudflare outage on July 17, 2020 by avh02 on Saturday July 18, 2020 @04:59AM (#23880086)
Not somebody who'd need to make this decision but: I guess it'd depend on the cost to your business of a half hour outage.