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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by thephyber on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:01PM (#23874849)
It's amazing to see how differently we treat the low probability, high impact events like active shooters and terrorism, but we completely fail to do the far easier task of dealing with the high probability, unknown impact events.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by ironmagma on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:22PM (#23875067)
Well, that’s true, except that it’s not easy. Easy to talk about, sure, but not easy to implement without backlash from the moneyed interests that exist.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by Fargren on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:59PM (#23875480)
Most of the world has reacted better than the US. I agree it's not easy, it has not been easy for anyone. But the unwillingness/incapability of the US to suffer backlash from their own moneyed interests is not the norm. It's a symptom of a dysfunctional system. It shouldn't be normalized.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by ironmagma on Friday July 17, 2020 @07:25PM (#23877223)
Yes, we value money too much here and don’t care enough about sustainability.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by Avicebron on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:22PM (#23875750)
Agreed it's a disturbing realization of the unspoken acknowledgment people in the US have been forced to live with: "capitalism doesn't care if you live or die"
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by sokoloff on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:35PM (#23876020)
Neither does socialism, communism, or nature.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by Avicebron on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:45PM (#23876229)
And I wasn't advocating for any one of those as a fundamentally better system, assuming you mean raw unfettered nature, hunter-gatherer style. And even then it's likely there is a tribe that cares..but I digress.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by hodgesrm on Friday July 17, 2020 @07:24PM (#23877215)
I don't see how the moneyed interests really have much to do with the COVID-19 response in the US (or lack of it). Few of the people refusing to wear masks belong to the idle rich.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by mantap on Friday July 17, 2020 @10:00PM (#23878295)
There is nothing special about America in that respect. Plenty of people around the world are not wearing masks when they are supposed to.

What sets America apart is the hyper-shorttermism: go into a lockdown, then come out of it in the middle when it becomes clear that the lockdown has economic consequences (which should have been obvious). Then, go back into lockdowns when it becomes clear that coming out of lockdown at the wrong time lead to a second wave.

There seems to be a particular class of stupid businesspeople, who cannot think beyond next week. This too is not unique to america. What is unique is that in America their desire to bankrupt their own businesses takes precedence over everything else.

Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by ironmagma on Friday July 17, 2020 @11:31PM (#23878665)
Other countries have had second lockdowns or are thinking about it as well, including China. Also, no one in America wants to bankrupt their own businesses (except the lower side of the lower class). Our downfall is our reliance on "repeatable" profits which we then waste by giving them to the rich who then hoard them and don't spend enough.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by ska on Friday July 17, 2020 @06:32PM (#23876747)
do you think low probability, high impact events are handled well on average?
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by thephyber on Friday July 17, 2020 @08:09PM (#23877590)
No. I think my intention when using the low-probability, high impact examples is that we over-invest by dedicating far too much time and too many resources on events that will likely never happen but we can't even prepare for / respond to the high probability events well. Far better to practice and iterate on improving our response to the latter which will give us the expertise to better handle the former.