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Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by izacus on Friday July 17, 2020 @01:20PM (#23872965)
Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO.

It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.

Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by skinkestek on Friday July 17, 2020 @03:12PM (#23874268)
I used to be in your camp but after Google had only showed a number of us irrelevant ads for years after years I decided it didn't matter: I don't want to date hot Russian/Taiwanese/Ukrainian/Thai women, I'm not interested in dating elderly women near me - and I'm not interested in dating guys either. Nothing against any of those persons, but I'm happily married after all so even the idea of browsing those sites is crazy to me (not that I used any of them before either).

With that I have almost exhausted the list of ads that Google thought has been relevant for me since I started dating my wife well over a decade ago.

Why they cannot show ads for family holidays, programming conferences, local stores etc I don't know but if I had to guess I'd say they could need some diversity on their teams ;-). (Adding a few married parents with stable marriages and small children should do the trick, but I am not interested and haven't been for a couple of years, I find Google close to disgusting sometimes and whatever technical edge it has has disappeared to the degree that I'm positively surprised to just see sane results like they used to be in 2007.)

Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by realmod on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:33PM (#23875187)
Google not displaying relevant ads do NOT in any way make it less wrong. In your case, there are 2 'ethical' options: use premium or avoid the service. Btw I also use adblock so I am a part of the problem.
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by anoncake on Saturday July 18, 2020 @04:33AM (#23880001)
By paying for premium you support a company whose business model is based on selling emotional manipulation (i.e. ads). You support a company that violates your right to use the software of your choice on your personal property. And you give in to extortion by paying for not being exposed to emotional manipulation. Paying for premium is the unethical option here.
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by dingaling on Saturday July 18, 2020 @05:09AM (#23880120)
> By paying for premium you support a company whose business model is based on selling emotional manipulation

The corollary of that is that any interaction with such a company is unethical, since it encourages them to continue the manipulation on people who may not be as aware or resistant.

I therefore assume you've routed YouTube.com to :: ?

Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by anoncake on Saturday July 18, 2020 @01:14PM (#23882902)
Using its bandwidth without paying it doesn't encourage a for-profit company.
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by ferzul on Saturday July 18, 2020 @06:53AM (#23880496)
can you do that on a phone?
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by skinkestek on Saturday July 18, 2020 @05:27PM (#23884988)
It is my rendering device.

For a number of years I allowed them to run JS on my device and download ads from other servers to my device.

I have now instructed my rendering device to not do that. Even as a devout christian that doesn't feel unethical.

I'm free to try to avoid the ads, they are free (within limits) to get me to view ads.

A pro tip in that regard would be to make the ads relevant and unobtrusive.

A good first step here would be to include them statically on the server side and make sure they don't contain any moving or noisy elements.

Another good idea would be to select ads not solely on what company they can fleece for most money by showing me irrelevant ads but also factor in if the ad is in any way relevant.

Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by mda on Saturday July 18, 2020 @06:10PM (#23885269)
A weird justification, "Oh they show me irrelevant ads" Just say that you don't care. Or do the right thing and either pay, don't watch or use it with ads.
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by Nginx487 on Friday July 17, 2020 @03:17PM (#23874335)
On the other hand, blocking absolutely adequate YouTube accounts (engineering, education, history) without explanation and appeal process is super unethical. Creating monopoly (which definition YouTube perfectly fits) is not only unethical, but against the law, as well as constant user's privacy violations.
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by ansible on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:34PM (#23875199)
There is starting to be competition to the YT monopoly. You may want to consider subscribing to Curiosity Stream and Nebula:

https://curiositystream.com/legaleagle/

Some content creators on YT (such as Legal Eagle, etc.) are also now on Nebula. $15 USD per year right now. Apparently they don't have to worry so much about de-monetization, however that works.

Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by harshitaneja on Saturday July 18, 2020 @10:00AM (#23881428)
Being the dominant player in the market doesn't make it illegal. It has to either have reached the dominant status through illegal means or engage in activities that help it maintain the position by destroying competition using anti-competitive means. What did youtube do to be "against the law"?
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by MrBuddyCasino on Friday July 17, 2020 @03:17PM (#23874325)
To all the downvoters: you are experiencing cognitive dissonance. You cheat, yet convince yourself somehow that what you do isn’t wrong. But deep, deep down you know.
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by false-mirror on Friday July 17, 2020 @03:45PM (#23874664)
On the other hand, leveraging the network effect to form a monopoly which compromises privacy and user security by coordinating with state aggressors around the globe...probably more unethical than controlling the software running on your own device?
Re:NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client by jiggunjer on Saturday July 18, 2020 @04:10AM (#23879891)
Wow two logical falacies in one sentence.