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Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by vppstuart on Thursday July 16, 2020 @09:42PM (#23866084)
Getting these problems fixed will be money well spent. Trying to go to the moon is not an example of that.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by wobbly_bush on Thursday July 16, 2020 @10:38PM (#23866405)
Surprising to see comments like this on HN of all places.

1) It assumes the problem is due to lack of money - that India being poor is not spending enough and throwing money at the problem would make it go away.

2) It completely disregards that the government has multiple departments who can independently make progress in varying fields.

Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by kilo_bravo_3 on Thursday July 16, 2020 @10:17PM (#23866286)
India's moon mission budget ($145 million) was 11 cents per Indian person (1.353 billion).

It was 0.02% of a single year's expenditure ($725 billion) by the Indian federal government-- spread out over multiple years.

It amounted to approximately 0.005% of India's GDP ($2.7 trillion).

And the money spent didn't disappear it went into infrastructure, manufacturing, and other mostly domestic pockets.

The only money that disappeared from the economy was the value of the fuel burned and materials not returned to earth from space.

Those 11 cents per person (well, let's call it 10 because the value of the craft on the moon in pieces) are floating around the economy, ready to be spent on water supplies.

Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by a-ve on Thursday July 16, 2020 @09:49PM (#23866118)
Getting your Govt to fix all the US' crumbling infrastructure will be money well spent. Spending a crap load of money on your military is not an example of that.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by krakatau1 on Sunday July 19, 2020 @02:10PM (#23891163)
USA spends very little money on military as a percentage of GDP while being the most powerful force in history. I would argue that that money is very well spent.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by mc32 on Thursday July 16, 2020 @09:55PM (#23866142)
There is waste surely --but if we don't "police" then people complain the US isn't keeping the peace and they let dictators do as they wish. People want it both ways, they want the US to stabilize the world but they also want the US to keep out of other countries' business.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by zapdrive on Friday July 17, 2020 @01:25AM (#23867339)
Trust me, nobody wants you to police the whole world. UN was formed for that very reason. US has over the years weakened UN to expand its own reach. So please get the hell out of everywhere and let UN handle.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by reducesuffering on Friday July 17, 2020 @02:01AM (#23867552)
UN is toothless without the US. Alas, US populace is tired of being chastised for spending massively and making mistakes on Pax Americana[0]. So, the US will increasingly isolate and won’t have the will to stand up to Russia and China aggression, which they are aware of and increasingly taking advantage of in the last decade. UK, France, and India aren’t formidable; not that they’d be willing. As you wish, we’ll find out how effective the UN’s deterrence is in the next decade.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana

Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by GeneralMayhem on Friday July 17, 2020 @07:32AM (#23869435)
The UN is not much of a mechanism to rein in China or Russia anyway considering the structure of the Security Council.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by fiblye on Thursday July 16, 2020 @10:11PM (#23866241)
Space research necessitates research into water recollection, purifying, and usage.

Going to the moon isn't just dumping money into getting from point A to B, like paying for gas during a daily commute. It's about advancing technology that improves life for everyone. Just look at this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies

Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by melling on Thursday July 16, 2020 @11:02PM (#23866537)
I’d argue that it also creates high-tech jobs. More skilled workers allows a country to go upmarket, rather than simply building cheap stuff in factories.

Hopefully, a few of these people become entrepreneurs.

Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by econcon on Thursday July 16, 2020 @11:20PM (#23866629)
If you want to save money - when I was India for 3 years, I saw same road being paved 3-4 times a year, nowhere else I had ever seen such a colossal waste of money due to improper planning.

Paving same road 3-4 times is not development.

Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by newyankee on Friday July 17, 2020 @03:11AM (#23867985)
It is not something that is planned. It is grass roots corruption. I will give you a crazier example. In a large taluka (like a town) in South India in a very poor water scarce area, money for a particular stretch of road (20 km) is given every year. The contract always goes to the company owned by the local MLA (member of state assembly). They deliberately make a weak road which washes away in a year. Some of my friends have seen this happen 11-12 times in a year. They say nowadays at least the contractor makes some roads, 10+ years back the road would not be constructed and the funds withdrawn.

This corruption is lower in centrally funded large scale expressways because lot of data logging, monitoring etc. is done nowadays. Having said that execution with < 10% money being pilfered means a highly successful project.

Indian bureaucracy always finds a way to slow down any expenditure on public infrastructure, unless they manage to get something of it for themselves. The system is so well evolved in all cases, e.g. agri subsidies are only given to farmers who pay middlemen 10% of the amount in cash (which is actually a progress !). The money transfers is handled by middlemen and not by the Govt. officials themselves.

The only slow solution to reducing this corruption has been technology, cashless digital transfers etc. It will take another 10 years to reduce to 'acceptable' levels.

Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by imtringued on Friday July 17, 2020 @03:12AM (#23867996)
Valuing short term goals over long term goals is how you get into a vicious cycle of poverty and stagnation. What people might not understand is that the long term goal isn't necessarily more expensive than the value you get out of it. Going to space sounds really "difficult" compared to something "basic" like solving water problems except it ignores that going to space might just be a matter of spending money whereas solving water would require solving political problems. The solution might be easy but it cannot be bought with money.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by hackerbabz on Friday July 17, 2020 @12:37AM (#23867092)
I'm pretty sure this is a troll, guys.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by rramadass on Thursday July 16, 2020 @10:46PM (#23866452)
Stop with this stupid trope already; think before you post.
Re:India’s daunting challenge: There’s water everywhere, and... by hourislate on Thursday July 16, 2020 @10:08PM (#23866223)
Learning to survive on the moon might translate into being able to survive in India one day.