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Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by foepys on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:00PM (#23837031)
Noise actually isn't a factor. After about 20mph tire noise drowns out engine noise.

Excluding cars that are purposely build/modified to be annoyingly loud.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by lazyjones on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @06:00PM (#23838519)
> After about 20mph tire noise drowns out engine noise.

This has been claimed over and over and is possibly true in some test scenarios but not in any real situation. Noise is additive, the engine noise may not be clearly audible, but tire+engine noise is always louder than just tire noise. And any time an ICE actually revs up, it's clearly audible at any high speed.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by FireBeyond on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @07:13PM (#23839250)
My supercharged V8 5.0L Jaguar would be an absolute disappointment to anyone expecting much in the way of engine noise. The sound dampening in the engine compartment is far better than any car I've had before, and the cabin has adaptive noise canceling specifically for engine / road noise.
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by Aunche on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @06:26PM (#23838815)
Luxury cars have a lot of sound dampening, so engine noise is hardly an issue. A Royce Royce Phantom has a v12 but is more quiet than a Tesla.
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by lazyjones on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @01:04PM (#23848104)
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by bkor on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @05:02AM (#23842815)
> Noise actually isn't a factor. After about 20mph tire noise drowns out engine noise.

I drove (passenger) in a friends electric car once. That car is significantly more quiet than a lot of cars I've been in. Some other people mention that noise dampening takes care of the noise, but that just proves above: an (ICE) engine is very noisy!

It's also very apparent in some hiking trips: any ICE is terribly noisy. You can easily determine which cars are electric though. Everyone driving electric would hugely cut down on road noise. I cannot wait until everyone can afford and uses one.

Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by bdamm on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:42PM (#23837564)
I can hammer the go pedal in my Tesla any time I want and not worry about trumpeting the intersection. It's pretty satisfying actually. Which is probably why ICE drivers are starting to hate Teslas. But you know what they say... if you can't beat 'em...
Re:German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomo... by anonymfus on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @09:56PM (#23840359)
In modern cities 30 km/h (19 mph) is a recommended speed limit.

#TwentyIsPlenty