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Re:Merge tag 'inclusive-terminology' into Linux kernel by Dylan16807 on Sunday July 12, 2020 @09:14PM (#23816184)
> hysterical

That's not called for.

As for the rest, it seems to me that it's slavery based on race that is the biggest motivator to changing the term. Obviously all slavery is a horrible problem, but other kinds of slavery are much less relevant to the terminology debate.

Re:Merge tag 'inclusive-terminology' into Linux kernel by ryanobjc on Monday July 13, 2020 @04:26AM (#23818461)
It seemed to be a totally factual description of the poster. Wrapping your comment up in a "that's not called for" false-call for civility while ignoring the reality on the ground that our friends, our fellow citizens may be affected by this kind of ongoing language, yet people REFUSE to help, because of... why?

Leon, why did you flip the tortoise on its back? You aren't helping it, why is that?

Re:Merge tag 'inclusive-terminology' into Linux kernel by Dylan16807 on Monday July 13, 2020 @01:37PM (#23823347)
This doesn't meaningfully help the people on the ground. Even for a positive change, the worst possible outcome of this is people feeling like they've done their part and then putting less effort into changing things like discriminatory social policies.

And I'm still not seeing which part was "hysterical".

Re:Merge tag 'inclusive-terminology' into Linux kernel by Chris2048 on Monday July 13, 2020 @08:25AM (#23819972)
No, it's an insult, and any sentiment expressed in using it is entirely subjective opinion, not "fact".

> false-call for civility

Is this another "fact"? Got the proof that the call for civility is false? Otherwise this is bad-faith.

> ignoring the reality

The "reality" you describe is disputed.

> people REFUSE to help

they refuse to participate in a bad-faith, antagonistic discourse. There is no attempt at "help" here, just demanding your perspective be accepted as fact, and insulting all who do not obey.

Re:Merge tag 'inclusive-terminology' into Linux kernel by DonHopkins on Monday July 13, 2020 @07:31AM (#23819581)
Sure it's called for, and you're being irrational and hysterical, too.

Exactly who besides you says "slavery based on race that is the biggest motivator to changing the term" and why? Give me some evidence, or retract what you said, because it's outrageously wrong. And where did you get that ridiculous unfounded belief? And what motivates you to propagate it, despite it being false? Just because it "seems to you" doesn't mean there's any truth to it.

It seems to the person who I was replying to, and many other people in this thread, that slavery no longer happens, and they're terribly wrong. Do you also falsely believe there is no more slavery, too? (Yes you do, I see from your other comment: "Nobody is enslaving anyone" -Dylan16807) Is that the basis of your false belief that "it seems to me that it's slavery based on race that is the biggest motivator to changing the term"?

It really puzzles me what motivates people like you to make such unsubstantiated statements whitewashing slavery, and then feign outrage at having your feelings hurt, while so many human beings are currently suffering from slavery every day, more than at any time in history, that you refuse to acknowledge. Can you explain why?