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Re:Linux kernel in-tree Rust support by cesarb on Saturday July 11, 2020 @02:57PM (#23804729)
> in Rust you can't compile a crate until you've compiled all its dependencies

Since Rust 1.38 (https://blog.rust-lang.org/2019/09/26/Rust-1.38.0.html#pipel...) that's no longer the case: "To compile a crate, the compiler doesn't need the dependencies to be fully built. Instead, it just needs their "metadata" (i.e. the list of types, dependencies, exports...). This metadata is produced early in the compilation process. Starting with Rust 1.38.0, Cargo will take advantage of this by automatically starting to build dependent crates as soon as metadata is ready."

Re:Linux kernel in-tree Rust support by pjmlp on Saturday July 11, 2020 @05:13PM (#23806055)
Every time a new Rust version comes out I compile my toy Gtk-rs application ported from a C/C++ User Journal article about Gtkmm.

The C++ version still wins by several minutes on a Asus 1215B.

Re:Linux kernel in-tree Rust support by swsieber on Saturday July 11, 2020 @06:34PM (#23806727)
Has the gap at least narrowed over time?
Re:Linux kernel in-tree Rust support by pjmlp on Sunday July 12, 2020 @01:25AM (#23809070)
Definitely, the improvements on rustc are visible, so eventually it will reach there.

And I test it on that hardware on purpose, because I should not have to buy a top class desktop to achieve usable compile times similar to other AOT compiled languages.

However, I also admit that what is missing is having a backend that favours debug workflows, which do exist just aren't yet there.

Re:Linux kernel in-tree Rust support by AlphaSite on Sunday July 12, 2020 @01:53PM (#23813223)
Is this a fresh compile each time?
Re:Linux kernel in-tree Rust support by pjmlp on Sunday July 12, 2020 @04:46PM (#23814610)
Yes, make clean all, cargo clean build.
Re:Linux kernel in-tree Rust support by fluffything on Monday July 13, 2020 @03:27AM (#23818021)
If it does compile, could you try reporting results for multiple Rust compiles (e.g. the current one, and the ones from 6,12,18,24 months ago) ? (If you can, maybe do the same for C, but I don't know how easy that is).
Re:Linux kernel in-tree Rust support by roca on Saturday July 11, 2020 @04:54PM (#23805869)
This is good but it doesn't work well enough in my experience. I still spend a lot of time waiting for dependencies to build before the crates that depend on them.