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Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by jolmg on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:59PM (#23804173)
> To make things worse, the Act proposes the creation of a hybrid bounty program, giving third-parties financial incentives to extract encrypted data following a request from U.S. agencies. In short, if the tech companies won’t build a backdoor, the U.S. government will pay hackers top dollar to use whatever means necessary to get the data for them.

Is that worse?

Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by JamesBarney on Saturday July 11, 2020 @07:41PM (#23807206)
I think it's a better solution. Far safer for the government to employ expert lock picks than to outlaw locks.
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by SoylentYellow on Sunday July 12, 2020 @01:31AM (#23809093)
I thought that was the current status quo?
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by markovbot on Saturday July 11, 2020 @08:24PM (#23807468)
Only if the government tells us when they find a back door, which they obviously would not do.
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by jolmg on Saturday July 11, 2020 @08:37PM (#23807559)
Even if they don't, I think it's still better.
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by m-p-3 on Saturday July 11, 2020 @06:53PM (#23806877)
> the U.S. government will pay hackers top dollar to use whatever means necessary to get the data for them.

Probably the current state of affair anyway.

Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by Nbox9 on Sunday July 12, 2020 @02:24PM (#23813481)
Probably for some operations. This would allow more of the intercepted and decrypted messages to become evidence in court. This would encourage more law enforcement agencies to use more backdoors.

IANAL

Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by m463 on Saturday July 11, 2020 @10:15PM (#23808144)
Except out in the open with plausible ... stuff.

Kind of like how woods hole "finds" a lot of stuff in the ocean.

Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by dannyw on Sunday July 12, 2020 @02:07AM (#23809251)
I mean, if this means bounty hunters sell their exploits to the US Government instead of selling it to a financial fraud ring, that seems like a good thing.
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by nitrogen on Sunday July 12, 2020 @01:41AM (#23809143)
Could you elaborate on the "stuff" that is found in the ocean for the purposes of this analogy?
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by m463 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:37AM (#23828862)
I suspect other arms of the government that can put a man far underwater find things in the ocean and pass it on.

so if woods hole finds something, or a hacker finds something, who knows if they got a hint from elsewhere.

Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by thecoppinger on Sunday July 12, 2020 @02:26AM (#23809325)
Second that, please - the analogy went over my head, but sounds interesting
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by throwawayway9 on Sunday July 12, 2020 @07:38AM (#23810600)
Could you elaborate on that?
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by xkcd-sucks on Saturday July 11, 2020 @09:32PM (#23807877)
It will probably turn out that the most cost effective way of getting around encryption is bribing employees, whether through a contracting firm or directly. Great for trust...
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by Mirioron on Sunday July 12, 2020 @08:51AM (#23810949)
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by dbsmith83 on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:01PM (#23808422)
No, because if data that was encrypted is used in court, at least you know that the encryption scheme has been cracked. Even if they don't show how they cracked it, you can at least know it has likely been compromised (unless, of course, they somehow installed spyware on your device to intercept the data before encryption). I believe that people trying to break encryption leads to better encryption.
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by IAmEveryone on Saturday July 11, 2020 @10:07PM (#23808084)
Of course it's worse, at least if it is successful. You already start out with two entities with access to your data instead of just the government. And one of them has already proven to be financially motivated and morally flexible, making it likely they will be willing to share their knowledge with any number of additional bidders.
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by boomboomsubban on Sunday July 12, 2020 @01:55AM (#23809201)
If they were just paying hackers to build the backdoor, it might be better. Requiring a US agency request is basically a loyalty oath though, as their work violates the DMCA if that request is rescinded.
Re:The battle to outlaw end-to-end encryption in the U.S. is... by helixhelix on Sunday July 12, 2020 @02:58PM (#23813784)
Yeah. Tax dollars at work.