Re:Don't close your MacBook with a cover over the camera
by Simon_says on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:53AM
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Can one power up the camera for only a few milliseconds? Enough to take a still photo, without the LED getting bright enough for a human to notice?
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Re:Don't close your MacBook with a cover over the camera
by shakna on Saturday July 11, 2020 @02:37AM
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In the past, this was exactly how it was done. Here's an article on the FBI doing it with an Apple webcam six years ago [0].
Should be noted that was after Apple went to the effort of making a hardware delay to try and force the LED to turn on first, but it was still worked around.
[0] https://www.smh.com.au/technology/researchers-activate-apple...
Re:Don't close your MacBook with a cover over the camera
by smsm42 on Saturday July 11, 2020 @02:18AM
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It doesn't have to be milliseconds. Most of people don't sit and stare on the camera all day. I have multiple displays and turning camera for a second when I am looking at another display - or even the laptop one but concentrating on something on the screen, especially the lower part - would slip my attention very easily. Or I might notice something off with peripheral sight, but it is very inexact and while I turn my head to bring it into the field of sight where I have a good resolution, it could be already gone. Of course, the cover has none of these problems. If it's covered, then it's covered.
Re:Don't close your MacBook with a cover over the camera
by Wowfunhappy on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:59AM
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No, because the LED doesn't need nearly as much power as the camera. And it takes the camera more than a few miliseconds to start working.
Re:Don't close your MacBook with a cover over the camera
by xxs on Saturday July 11, 2020 @09:35AM
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> much power as the camera
You mean current, right? And it'd have current limit circuit, at a resistor but likely a slow start circuit entirely? Unless you share the schematics, it's an empty argument.
Re:Don't close your MacBook with a cover over the camera
by saagarjha on Saturday July 11, 2020 @03:33AM
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This used to be a thing, where you’d flash the LED briefly and hope the user didn’t notice. But new Macs prevent this by having a minimum duration the light will remain on.
Re:Don't close your MacBook with a cover over the camera
by jordan314 on Sunday July 12, 2020 @09:17AM
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FWIW I tried using the command line utility isightcapture on my 2019 macbook, and the LED turned on for 4-5 seconds and I got a dialog asking if I wanted to allow access to the camera. So this seems to be true.
I still have a camera cover though