> ...internet-printers (Internetausdrucker, a German word for tech illiterates)

Let me guess, this word describes people who print out their emails?

Not only mails. I had teachers printing out web pages before reading them because it felt more natural for them.

For serious reading, that does make sense, at least with all monitors I've used so far.

> Conservative internet-printers

By association Otto Schily wasn't a conservative and yet...

That there are other authoritarians doesn't make the CDU/CSU less authoritarian.

Otto Schily exited office in 2005, fifteen years ago. While he is a law-and-order hardliner himself, he's not relevant for any recent discussions. Since then the office was filled by hardline authoritarians (Schäuble, Maiziere, HP Friedrich, Maiziere, Seehofer).

But if Schily is any indication (and why not?) it doesn't help to have a different party fill that position. Just like it took Nixon to go to China (because he wasn't at risk of being mistaken for a friend of communism) other partys can't afford to look much "weaker" than the current folks - and then have _anything_ go wrong.

> But if Schily is any indication (and why not?) it doesn't help to have a different party fill that position.

I agree on that one. There aren't many progressives in interior politics aside from Left and Greens, the rest is all authoritarian/law-and-order hardliners. Frankly, it's disgusting.

How's the CSU authoritarian? That's like throwing expletives around; you might as well call them Nazis and get it over with.

Look at the history of CDU/CSU interior ministers, both federal and in the states. They are authoritarians, and their party line regarding interior politics is authoritarian.

As for calling them Nazis... well, when one looks at the events regarding former Verfassungsschutz chef Maaßen, instituted by HP Friedrich and protected by successor Seehofer until it was no longer tenable, who is accused of having protected the AfD during his term: it's not that far to at least imply ideological support or tolerance toward far right political positions.

It's not. Modern CDU/CSU are basically where the social democrats were about ten years ago.

> Modern CDU/CSU are basically where the social democrats were about ten years ago.

relevant?

That too. But I was mostly referring to political positions.

You are confusing social politics, economic politics and interior politics.

No, I don't.

Spineless, aimless and dysfunctional?

Precisely!

Yet more proof that "Conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit". And the speed limit seems to be rather generous in this case. But for some it's never high enough, they'd pull down all of Chesterton's fences at the merest whim.