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Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by ohazi on Thursday July 09, 2020 @07:38PM (#23786536)
I don't understand why anyone would prefer a volume slider to discrete up/down buttons. I almost never want to quickly slide to a specific volume, it's always "this is a little too loud" or "I didn't quite hear that."

The action I want is a quick relative tick up or down, then listen again to see if the improvement is adequate, then repeat as necessary until it's perfect.

Sliders are good for quickly moving by a large amount to a rough absolute position. But they're utter crap for fine adjustment.

Am I the only one who gets infuriated when trying to get to the exact spot I want by rolling my finger ever so slightly to get a slider to move by half a pixel? It takes forever and it gives you RSI!

Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by whywhywhywhy on Thursday July 09, 2020 @10:16PM (#23787470)
>I don't understand why anyone would prefer a volume slider to discrete up/down buttons

Blows my mind how an interface I can operate with my eyes closed on touch alone would ever be considered inferior to one I actually have to engage directly with with and change modes to access sliders.

Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by yakkers on Thursday July 09, 2020 @08:02PM (#23786699)
You can 'flick' the volume or brightness button on the Touch Bar to the left or right to turn down/up respectively. It even works holding down Shift+Option to enable more fine control of either.
Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by whywhywhywhy on Thursday July 09, 2020 @10:17PM (#23787478)
> It even works holding down Shift+Option to enable more fine control

So now I need to use two hands and look at the control to use it when the previous worked fine one handed on touch alone.

Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by wingerlang on Friday July 10, 2020 @07:43AM (#23790513)
Fine grained control (+0.1 "dots") still required two hands before I think?
Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by whywhywhywhy on Friday July 10, 2020 @11:29AM (#23792508)
Can be done one handed (opt+shift+vol) but it wasn't needed to fix inaccuracy in the default interface as the post I replied to suggested
Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by koynoyno on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:14PM (#23803712)
I missed Shift+Option fine control and didn't know that. Thank you!
Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by qppo on Thursday July 09, 2020 @08:15PM (#23786786)
> they're utter crap for fine adjustment

I think if you'd make this suggestion to audio engineers they'd throw their consoles at you

Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by ohazi on Thursday July 09, 2020 @08:24PM (#23786838)
Sorry, I specifically meant touch sliders, not physical sliders, and especially not physical sliders with nicely tuned damped physical resistance like on expensive audio equipment.
Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by wingerlang on Friday July 10, 2020 @07:47AM (#23790526)
> I don't understand why anyone would prefer a volume slider to discrete up/down buttons. I almost never want to quickly slide to a specific volume, it's always "this is a little too loud" or "I didn't quite hear that."

Have you actually used the slider to get used to it? It requires a significant-ish slide to increase/decrease a full dot. And by significant-ish I mean it is easy to adjust it less than one dot.

That being said I used to think the same until I got used to it, I slide more than a few dots up and down all the time. I would not want to go back to taptaptaptap.

Re:Sampler for Mac Touchbars by crobertsbmw on Thursday July 09, 2020 @08:04PM (#23786713)
Sometimes I just want to do a slow fade to set the mood you know...