Re:Chicago Police Department shuts down its arrest API
by tick_tock_tick on Thursday July 09, 2020 @05:21PM
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Passive-voice is the most appropriate for the vast majority of news stories.
Re:Chicago Police Department shuts down its arrest API
by ceejayoz on Thursday July 09, 2020 @05:27PM
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Perhaps, but how often do you hear tortured, nonsensical phrasing like "the suspect's gun shot the victim" when discussing non-police incidents?
Sometimes the voice switches mid-tweet when the subject does:
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1266935666274906113
> Minneapolis: A photographer was shot in the eye.
> Washington, D.C.: Protesters struck a journalist with his own microphone.
> Louisville: A reporter was hit by a pepper ball on live television by an officer who appeared to be aiming at her.
"A photographer was shot" (cop), "A reporter was hit" (cop), but "Protesters struck".
Re:Chicago Police Department shuts down its arrest API
by tick_tock_tick on Thursday July 09, 2020 @06:19PM
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I won't disagree that journalists are crap at consistency, sticking to provable facts, and avoiding injecting biased language into reporting.
Re:Chicago Police Department shuts down its arrest API
by anigbrowl on Friday July 10, 2020 @12:12AM
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If that was the problem then you'd expect loaded phrasing to be about equally distributed, but I don't think that's the case.
Re:Chicago Police Department shuts down its arrest API
by zorpner on Thursday July 09, 2020 @05:46PM
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Passive-voice is frequently nonfactual. Cars do not run people over (unless they are rolling, and not being driven); guns do not shoot people (unless they experience a mechanical malfunction). This phrasing is _designed_ to mislead, to divert blame from the responsible parties, and has no place in the vast majority of news stories.
Re:Chicago Police Department shuts down its arrest API
by tick_tock_tick on Thursday July 09, 2020 @06:24PM
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I disagree many times it's often the only 100% factually correct statement. Person A was run over by a car. Person B was arrested at the scene sitting behind the wheel. The reporter often only has that information to go on. They can not know 100% for sure that Person B ran over Person A.
2 weeks later camera footage comes out showing Person C driving over Person A, getting out of the car and running, and Person B moving over to sit in the drives seat.
Re:Chicago Police Department shuts down its arrest API
by ATsch on Thursday July 09, 2020 @07:51PM
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This would be a great point if not for the heavily skewed application of this technique towards the police, as a sibling comment gives examples for.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/07/14/...
> The deputy’s gun fired one shot, missing the dog and hitting the child.
Or here:
https://reason.com/2020/01/28/passive-voice-deployed-in-myst...
> The suspect was struck several times by the officer's duty weapon.