Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by selectodude on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:07PM
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I feel like if you’re maxing one of these clusters for an entire month at a time, it might still be cheaper to just buy one.
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Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by dekhn on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:24PM
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Ah, but when you use a large cloud, you're not just paying for the cost of the server. You're paying for access to a large high performance network and storage system that is extremely close to your server. Replicating those properties will cost you far more (well, it depends on your specific needs) than the cloud provider.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by jeffbee on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:23PM
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The DGX A100 costs a quarter million dollars, so the crossover time might be significantly longer than a month.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by selectodude on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @04:58PM
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So six months? Nine months? And at the end, you have an asset. You can always sell it and replace it with the newer model.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by cardine on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @03:18PM
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We did the math and decided to buy. For us, the break even point (including everything) was nine months of running 24/7.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by manigandham on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:16PM
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That's true for any cloud server.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by m3kw9 on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:43PM
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You forgot there is a lot of IT work after buying the hardware to set it up properly. That’s time spent
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by nojito on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @10:50PM
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That’s a one time cost plus maintenance.
Still comes out cheaper than cloud offerings.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by 867-5309 on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:29PM
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untrue
Intel Xeon Gold 5120 14Core @ £1200 used
renting 1Core @ £1.20/mo.
would take 6 years to fully pay for that single core alone, and that's excluding the 512MB RAM, 10GB SSD and unlimited 400Mb/s bandwidth
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by sbierwagen on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @01:33PM
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Here's a completed ebay auction from April 20th that sold a 5120 for $699: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-Gold-5120-SR3GD-14-Core-... I know the pound hasn't been doing well lately, but surely it hasn't been that bad.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by 867-5309 on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @02:06PM
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we're still talking years, not one month
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by shadowpho on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @05:34PM
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Where are you getting $1.20/mo on 1 core/512MB ram/10GB ssd and half a GB bandiwdth? Amazon for example was something like $50/mo for bandwidth alone
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by 867-5309 on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:17AM
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it's not AWS-grade, just a budget VPS, but has been just as reliable and performant so far. it's out there should you care to seek. the correct currency of £ will help
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by reitzensteinm on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:37AM
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You are renting an overprovisioned timeslice, not a dedicated core. Even Hetzner's time slice instances are twice the price. Their dedicated CPU instances are almost 10x the price.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by 867-5309 on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @06:17AM
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possibly, but nothing to suggest that 6 months in. they suit the use cases perfectly
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by reitzensteinm on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @07:31PM
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It's definitely a timeslice, and that throws off your comparison wildly. Otherwise you'd be able to rent a 32 core dedicated machine at the same place for $48 a month. Can you?
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by 867-5309 on Thursday July 09, 2020 @04:58AM
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it mentions "dedicated resources", but it's unclear whether this applies to CPU
it might throw the comparison off if there was variation in performance at different times, but there isn't
cores scale with RAM, you cannot rent 32 with 512MB
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by reitzensteinm on Thursday July 09, 2020 @08:02PM
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They're probably talking about dedicated RAM, although even then I wouldn't trust it not to be overprovisioned up to 2:1 on NVME swap.
Hetzner dedicated cores come with 4gb of memory per vCPU for reference.
1.2 GBP/mo for a dedicated core is wildly off market price. There's no way they'd be able to make a profit, so either they're going out of business tomorrow or it's not dedicated.
Re:New Compute Engine A2 VMs–First Nvidia Ampere A100 GPUs i...
by 867-5309 on Friday July 10, 2020 @06:12AM
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hourly benchmarks confirm it's definitely DDR4 RAM, standard SATA SSD with acceptable IOPS, and decent enough network. it's the budget branch of the biggest hosting provider so maybe they can afford to. how long it lasts only time will tell