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Re:The Unplanned Impact of Mathematics by ganzuul on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:11AM (#23737687)
No, to commute is plain English. Abelian is not.
Re:The Unplanned Impact of Mathematics by Someone on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:24AM (#23737925)
I doubt many lawmen would be able to infer the meaning of “communicative” from today’s meaning of “to commute”. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/commute defines it as ”change, alter”, “convert”, or “compensate”, or as a synonym for “to commutate”, with meaning “to reverse every other half cycle of (an alternating current) so as to form a direct current” (first used, according to that dictionary in 1890; https://projecteuclid.org/download/pdf_1/euclid.rmjm/1181070... claims Kronecker introduced the term “Abelian group” in 1870)

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/commute doesn’t give any definition close to the mathematical meaning, either.

Unless dictionaries 150-ish years ago had significantly closer descriptions of the term, “Abelian”, being a new term not loaded with pre-existing definition might be the better choice for naming this property.

Re:The Unplanned Impact of Mathematics by ganzuul on Sunday July 05, 2020 @09:13AM (#23738422)
"Commutative" communicates something. "Abelian" communicates nothing.

"Order-independent" like I suggested communicates a lot.

Re:The Unplanned Impact of Mathematics by Someone on Sunday July 05, 2020 @10:25AM (#23738895)
Does it? I think that could describe “associative” equally well as “commutative”.

Edit: “symmetric” might be an alternative for Abelian because the Cayley table (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayley_table) of an Abelian group is symmetric. I’m not sure that’s immediately clear enough for laymen, though.

Re:The Unplanned Impact of Mathematics by gizmo686 on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:35PM (#23743150)
"Symmetric group" is already taken. Given a set S, the symmetric group G_s is the group of all permutations of S. Not to be confused with a permutation group of S, which is a group of some permutations of S.

I suppose we could rename "symmetric group" to "maximal permutation group", but stringing adjectives together is not a sustainable strategy for naming. Plus, it is not clear to me how accurate "maximal permutation group" is as a name. That is, the symmetric group S_3 is the maximal permutation group of {1,2,3}. However, it is not generally a maximal permutation group, as it is contained withing the permutation group S_4.

Re:The Unplanned Impact of Mathematics by ganzuul on Sunday July 05, 2020 @12:26PM (#23739832)
Symmetric is also good but it has a very distinct geometric interpretation. If we can avoid overloading terminology in a confusing way when designing these the names we should do so.

Perhaps pair-independent is a distinctive name for associative...

Re:The Unplanned Impact of Mathematics by Someone on Sunday July 05, 2020 @05:18PM (#23742088)
Well, introducing the new term “Abelian” certainly avoids overloading terminology in a confusing way :-)

“Pair invariant” IMO, isn’t good, certainly worse than “Pairing invariant”. “Parentheses invariant” might work, but of course would get just as confusing/incorrect as “pair invariant” once one moves from groups to fields.

Re:The Unplanned Impact of Mathematics by ganzuul on Monday July 06, 2020 @03:52AM (#23745637)
"Associative" doesn't provide any information to avoid confusion when dealing with mixed operators either.

Somehow including "peer" in the terminology could help.