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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by jacquesm on Saturday July 04, 2020 @05:26PM (#23735016)
This is precisely what is going on. You can see that dynamic at work here on HN on a daily basis.
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by noobermin on Saturday July 04, 2020 @06:23PM (#23735327)
I have apologized before on HN and people vote it up, so no I do not see it. It feels much more like people just dig in their heels due to selfish reasons.
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by silvat on Sunday July 05, 2020 @04:00AM (#23737245)
I wouldn't be so sure. I read a book about rhetoric (basically the bread and butter of politicians, marketing and PR) and it strongly advocated never( or almost never) apologizing. I can't remember the exact reasoning but the the assertion was that it rarely has the desired effect and often weakens your position and your ability to actually fix the situation.
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by stephenbez on Monday July 06, 2020 @05:10PM (#23752790)
Interesting. Do you know what book this was?
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by silvat on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @08:56AM (#23769394)
Yeah, it was this one: Thank You for Arguing: What Cicero, Shakespeare and the Simpsons Can Teach Us About the Art of Persuasion

From chapter 23. Recover from a screw-up

```Don’t apologize at all. The problem with an apology is that it belittles you without enlarging your audience. Belittling yourself fails to un-belittle the victim. That’s why apologies often don’t work. They rarely seem sincere enough or extreme enough. And many people—especially men—try to couch their apologies in ways that avoid belittling themselves: “I’m really sorry you feel that way.” Apologies like that only increase the belittlement, implying, “I really wish you weren’t such a sensitive flower.” Try this sometime. Shrink your audience to the size of a plant and watch the anger flow.

Whoa, wait. Aren’t we splitting a hair or two here? When I told my boss how terrible I felt about misplacing a volcano, wasn’t that the same as an apology? Actually, no. Look closely and you will find a critical difference. When you own up to falling short of your own expectations, you emphasize your high standards. Focus on the standards, and you can actually make your ethos bigger in your audience’s eyes. Say you’re sorry, and you shrink.```

Re:De-escalating social media conflict by saagarjha on Sunday July 05, 2020 @02:58PM (#23740982)
I've had apologies in response to corrections be downvoted sometimes. But certainly much less frequently than on Reddit: there, if you apologize, prepare for your original comment and apology to be buried in downvotes.
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by jacquesm on Saturday July 04, 2020 @06:26PM (#23735348)
Exceptions, rules and so on.
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by kortilla on Saturday July 04, 2020 @08:39PM (#23735861)
Ironic response :)
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by oehpr on Saturday July 04, 2020 @09:55PM (#23736110)
Well, give jac their fair dues. They said "You can see that dynamic at work here on HN on a daily basis." not "Every single post where someone admits a mistake on Hacker News is guaranteed to be capitalized on by outrage seekers"
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by jacquesm on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:20AM (#23737117)
Not entirely by accident.
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by DonHopkins on Saturday July 04, 2020 @11:19PM (#23736359)
A time proven technique for saving face when you say something stupid is to switch sides by replying to yourself.
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by DonHopkins on Saturday July 04, 2020 @11:19PM (#23736360)
That trick never works!
Re:De-escalating social media conflict by 082349872349872 on Sunday July 05, 2020 @02:15AM (#23736945)
This time for sure.

(It has worked for US political parties: http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/pierce.... "The democracy of to-day hold the liberty of one man to be absolutely nothing, when in conflict with another man's right of property. Republicans, on the contrary, are for both the man and the dollar; but in cases of conflict, the man before the dollar.")