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Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by ceejayoz on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:12PM (#23728816)
> if the public thought masks were important, there would have been an unprecedented run on PPE and the medical community would have had squat

This still happened, though. All the stores that sold masks to consumers sold out, very rapidly, at the same time the Surgeon General was tweeting that they didn't work.

They should've ordered they be pulled from sale, not lied about their efficacy.

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by XorNot on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:25PM (#23728890)
This is also incidentally the exact sort of thing the Defense Production Act is actually for. It could be invoked, used to give guaranteed quantity and price contracts to suppliers and avert the entire issue of supply runs.

Which likely wouldn't happen because it's not like someone who gets a profitable contract from the Federal government, retools their factory, isn't going to then try and squeeze as much production out of that as they can anyway.

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Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by ceejayoz on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:34PM (#23728946)
Nah, you and I have done this dance about a month ago, where you were posting retracted articles to support your point.

Is there a RCT showing masks don't help (or better yet, are actively harmful) against respiratory illnesses spread via droplet? Do you have an explanation for why healthcare workers have "droplet precautions" that require masks when dealing with, for example, flu patients?

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Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by ceejayoz on Friday July 03, 2020 @09:07PM (#23729112)
> Your inability to support your position is noted, thanks.

You're posting something supporting mask usage.

"Face mask use could result in a large reduction in risk of infection". Somehow turning that into "masks bad" because it's a low certainty finding (inviting further study to confirm) is silly bullshit.

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by DanBC on Friday July 03, 2020 @09:12PM (#23729146)
You may want to learn what "low certainty" means, because it's not "silly bullshit".

"low certainty (our confidence in the effect estimate is limited; the true effect could be substantially different from the estimate of the effect);"

Here's the bit you need to pay more attention to: "the true effect could be substantially different from the estimate of the effect);"

But, again, feel free to link to any of your preferred research.

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by ceejayoz on Friday July 03, 2020 @09:14PM (#23729157)
> Here's the bit you need to pay more attention to: "the true effect could be substantially different from the estimate of the effect);"

"We have a low confidence finding that masks work" is not the "high confidence finding masks don't work!" you seem to think it is.

> But, again, feel free to link to any of your preferred research.

I mean, I'd probably just link the one you did, as it supports my point here.

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by dang on Saturday July 04, 2020 @12:08AM (#23730033)
Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23730026. This is not cool to do here, and especially not when it spreads across multiple threads. No more of this please.
Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by dang on Saturday July 04, 2020 @12:08AM (#23730032)
Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23730027. This is not cool to do here, and especially not when it spreads across multiple threads. No more of this please.