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Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:47AM (#23690563)
Are you trying to argue that a financial transaction - a service provided by a bank where THEY take all the risk and responsibility of said transfer - should be free of charge?

I mean if I transferred a billion and my bank made a mistake, I would not lose any money. Make a typo in your bitcoin transaction, and you're screwed.

Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by asdfasgasdgasdg on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:53AM (#23690647)
> Are you trying to argue that a financial transaction - a service provided by a bank where THEY take all the risk and responsibility of said transfer - should be free of charge?

I think that they are making the point that they actually are free of charge. Fees for moving money at banks are negligible. They might not actually be entirely free, but wire transfer fees are ~$20, and I've moved a million dollars this way before. I don't know if there's much of a difference between a million and a billion in this context.

Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by jpkoning on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @12:25PM (#23691726)
>I think that they are making the point that they actually are free of charge.

That's right.

An "on-us" transaction, one that simply requires RBC to update its database by debiting funds from RBC customer A and crediting them to RBC customer B, is free. (If your bank is charging you for that, switch banks!).

A wire transfer is more complex than an "on-us" transfer because it involves two bank database. RBC has to debit its database, and Bank of Montreal has to credit its database, and the central bank is usually involved as an intermediary. This often involves a wire transfer fee.

Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by Jommi on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @12:40PM (#23691913)
It only involves fees in less developed banking systems like the US. European banks transfer large amounts of euros to other banks with no fees.
Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by sukilot on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @12:53PM (#23692059)
Bank transfers are free because you have to deposit (aka lend) money to the bank before transferring it. And the bank get to use that money for profit while it is deposited.

There's a billion dollars difference between a million and a billion. You can't just plop a billion dollars into your checking account. It's part of a hugely complex context (how would you even accumulate a billion dollars to deposit?)

Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by knocte on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:51AM (#23690615)
> Make a typo in your bitcoin transaction, and you're screwed

Not really, bitcoin addresses have checksums.

Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by hh3k0 on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:51AM (#23690611)
You're just as screwed if you make a typo in your bank transaction, though.
Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by ForHackernews on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @11:42AM (#23691172)
lol no you're not. call them up and they'll fix it.
Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by parliament32 on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @12:21PM (#23691683)
If you wire the money to the wrong account? No, you're SOL unless the receiving bank and receiving account decides to reverse the transaction, which is fairly rare.
Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by mrep on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @08:30AM (#23700621)
If it's your bank, it should be easy. When I asked for my account and routing number for my checking number from a chase branch, the teller incorrectly assumed the routing number was for the current state when in fact i opened it in another state which meant a different routing number. Come my first direct deposit and I see nothing in my checking account, I panicked, guessed the problem looking at the routing number the teller gave me and where I opened it, went to a branch and they fixed it in like a day.
Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by nickfromseattle on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @02:55PM (#23693468)
I've had people send me $ to the wrong account, and it gets rejected by the receiving bank, I believe because the name / information doesn't match what's listed on the receiving bank.
Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by sumedh on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:52PM (#23697261)
> I believe because the name / information doesn't match what's listed on the receiving bank. reply

In India and Australia, the banks just use the account number not the name. If you screw that up its completely your fault. The bank might help but its not obligated to do so since you accepted these terms and conditions.

Re:The largest unknown Bitcoin wallet moved nearly $1B for $... by bufferoverflow on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @12:12PM (#23691566)
They do not "take all the risk". In fact, they have none of the risk. If your money disappears, you can only recover $250K through FDIC insurance. For the rest you will have to get into a lengthy legal battle with the bank.