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Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by vageli on Saturday June 27, 2020 @11:04AM (#23662264)
> I’m not blaming the phone manufacturers - I am blaming Google. Apple definitely didn’t go out of its way to make sure that my 2006 era Mac Mini worked with Windows. But since back then, Apple used mostly standard PC components, MS supported it.

But Google doesn't control the hardware in the same way that Apple does. It seems odd to blame Google for the lack of hardware support when the target platforms are not homogenous and have no single entity controlling the platform.

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Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by MiddleEndian on Saturday June 27, 2020 @11:10AM (#23662313)
Microsoft doesn't control hardware, neither does the Linux community, yet I can run Windows and Linux on all sorts of random PC configurations. You can absolutely give Google/Android shit for this.
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Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by ThrowawayR2 on Saturday June 27, 2020 @06:04PM (#23665041)
Actually they do. Microsoft maintains a well-defined standard and certification tests that define whether a machine is Windows compatible. The current one is the Windows HLK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Hardware_Lab_Kit. FOSS operating systems simply ride on the coattails of that.
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Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by kevin_thibedeau on Saturday June 27, 2020 @01:23PM (#23663124)
PCs follow well defined standards. Embedded hardware has nothing comparable.
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Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by scarface74 on Saturday June 27, 2020 @01:34PM (#23663189)
Yes and Microsoft/Intel defined these standards over 25 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play

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Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by scarface74 on Saturday June 27, 2020 @11:26AM (#23662411)
Microsoft doesn’t control the hardware either. They solved the problem in 1995. Even my old DX/2-66 DOS Compatibility Card created by Apple installed in my PowerMac 6100/60 that shipped with Windows 3.1 could run Windows 95 on release day. Apple never released new drivers for it.

If Windows ran on something that esoteric 25 years ago, why can’t Google solve the problem now?

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Re:Palm – The best small phone for minimalists, athletes, an... by pjmlp on Saturday June 27, 2020 @02:46PM (#23663761)
Because they don't care, and it is curious how in Google's case their SV fans are so fast blaming the OEMs, as if poor Google wasn't capable to enforce it, if they really cared.
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