Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections
by AgentME on Friday June 26, 2020 @05:43PM
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I think people really tend to undervalue good moderation and related systems for shaping good discussion. It's extremely common on HN to see people write off all moderation as censorship and an absolute bad, but then it's really interesting to see that so many people repeatedly pick the very-moderated HN over places like 4chan. It's like fish, ignorant of water, proposing that it's universally true that decreasing the obstacles and material between each other improves the discourse, while ignoring that places like that do exist and largely lack that benefit.
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Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections
by prox on Saturday June 27, 2020 @02:50AM
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It has to do with culture. Take traffic precautions. People stop speeding when you place speedbumps. You might need those speedbumps for 5% of traffic users, but it useful. Nobody has claimed that there is a speed dictatorship.
The same goes with moderation. You create a culture where you allow everyone there say, and add specific speedbumps (rules) where your community needs it. Otherwise you get the 5% that overruns the place, skewing the discussion disproportionately.
Source : was moderator for 5 years (not here)
Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections
by tjpnz on Saturday June 27, 2020 @03:49AM
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Is HN "very-moderated" though? I've got my share of unpopular opinions but nobody has ever tried to shut me down over them - something that I've seen happen to myself and others relatively frequently on IRC.
Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections
by vbezhenar on Saturday June 27, 2020 @04:18AM
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Sounds like a good moderation. Why would you want to shut down unpopular opinion.
Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections
by iateanapple on Saturday June 27, 2020 @12:46AM
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> but then it's really interesting to see that so many people repeatedly pick the very-moderated HN over places like 4chan.
Do they? HN seems small compared to 4chan and tiny compared to Facebook.
Iād say more than three quarters of my tech friends have never been on HN whereas they have all been on Facebook at one point.
Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections
by AgentME on Saturday June 27, 2020 @02:00AM
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Oh I wasn't trying to make a relative comparison, just pointing out that there are a lot of people here who repeatedly choose HN over 4chan.
Re:Facebook announces policy changes ahead of 2020 elections
by baud147258 on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:18PM
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I think it's possible to have good discussion on places that are very loosely moderated, but it's not as simple. And I don't think it can work on sites like 4chan where user have no identity