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Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by michaelt on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:17AM (#23651603)
If you can easily get a $500 device that makes 95% of cops stop chasing you, wouldn't every rational violent criminal buy one?

I suppose it could work if 95% of the police were engaged in something other than apprehending violent criminals...

Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by freeone3000 on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:44AM (#23651884)
According to https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpa11.pdf , approximately 8.2% were "reported crime emergency". So, in effect, 91.8% of all police contact with the public is something other than apprehending criminals at all.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by Nursie on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:30AM (#23651717)
> I suppose it could work if 95% of the police were engaged in something other than apprehending violent criminals...

I would be surprised if apprehending violent criminals was more that 5% of the job, personally. Wouldn't you?

To the downvoters; it is your right to do so, but think about it - Police are on patrol, taking reports of crimes that happened previously, they guard things, they help keep order at sporting events, they're on hand for political events. They're being traffic cops, white collar cops, they appear in court, all sorts of activities. And there's paperwork.

I would be very surprised if at any one time more than 5% of cops, or for a cop on average, more than 5% of their time was directly "apprehending violent criminals". It's important they do so, of course.

Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by kevin_thibedeau on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:30AM (#23653102)
It's even lower than that in most of the US where cops are basically waiting around for something to happen most of the time. But the narrative is bullets flying every time they enter the war zone of placid suburbia.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by greedo on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:36PM (#23654658)
Cop work is exceedingly boring. If you ever do a ride-along, you'll see how boring. And with a ride-along, they try to show you the exciting stuff since it's a recruitment method. Lots of driving around, lots of running tags, lots of looking for something meaningful to do when it's dark and not much is happening. Idle hands are the Devil's workshop etc etc.

https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard...

Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by deepakhj on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:34AM (#23651757)
There’s absolutely no benefit to shooting an officer as a criminal. You instantly become added to America’s most wanted list and the courts will throw the book at you.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by kube-system on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:42AM (#23651856)
That might not be a marginal deterrent if the criminal has already committed significant crimes.

[murder suspect] + [doesn't fight] = [life in prison], [no chance of escaping]

[murder suspect] + [does fight] = [life in prison], [non-zero chance of escaping]

This is actually a reason we might want to reduce sentences for some crimes. 'Tough on crime' laws make criminals more brazen.

Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by packetlost on Friday June 26, 2020 @10:34AM (#23652404)
Some crimes, sure. I don't think (intentional) murderers should be getting released back into the public very quickly though
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by vanattab on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:52AM (#23651968)
Criminals committing acts of violence often are not acting based on rational reasoning. Often it based on emotion/fear /anger.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by michaelt on Friday June 26, 2020 @09:41AM (#23651844)
You don't need to draw and shoot a gun if merely having one visible makes the cops get out your way and await backup.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by sukilot on Friday June 26, 2020 @10:29AM (#23652333)
Which is good. It means we can avoid violence, collect evidence for an easy conviction (such as videoing a firearms violation) and apprehend criminals safely using trained SWAT forces.
Re:Why the US military usually punishes misconduct but polic... by greedo on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:38PM (#23654676)
Nah, cops will just gun you down if they "think" you have any sort of firearm.

Watch this video. The cops don't see a gun, they think he has one because of the call, but they don't see one. The minute his hand goes towards his waste, they blast him...

https://www.abqjournal.com/1380152/apd-man-shot-by-officers-...