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Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by jshen on Thursday June 25, 2020 @01:31AM (#23637242)
I don’t think this is the case. The way iOS tells users that an app is tracking location in the background has led to a large increase in users opting out in all the apps I’ve worked on. There are ways to be very effective at this as Apple has shown since that article was written over 15 years ago.

Second, this effectiveness doesn’t require the walled garden and forcing apps to pay 30% of revenue to Apple.

Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by katbyte on Thursday June 25, 2020 @02:11AM (#23637409)
Sounds like it’s working then? If an app asks me for location I personally go wtf no why do you need to know and most apps honestly don’t. I stick with apple for such a reason
Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by luckylion on Thursday June 25, 2020 @02:55AM (#23637635)
The point was "it's an OS feature, not an Appstore feature, so Apple's Walled Garden approach has nothing to do with that feature, Apple's OS has".

It's working. But not because of Apple's Appstore policies.

Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by rahkiin on Thursday June 25, 2020 @03:10AM (#23637723)
With sideloading apps could use private APIs that circumvent these policies maybe
Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by jshen on Thursday June 25, 2020 @07:47PM (#23647118)
The OS can stop an app from using certain APIs. This has nothing to do with the walled garden. ios tells you when an app is using your location in the background, it can do this for side loaded apps as well. It then allows you to disable it for that app, which it an also do for side loaded apps.
Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by Nullabillity on Thursday June 25, 2020 @03:23AM (#23637785)
Then the sandbox is broken..?
Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by bzzzt on Thursday June 25, 2020 @04:36AM (#23638291)
Defense in depth right? First layer: iOS sandbox, second layer: App Store.
Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by raydev on Thursday June 25, 2020 @12:11PM (#23642286)
Currently, App Store doesn't just review safety and UX, it also reviews whether or not Apple simply likes your idea or if you are competing with a feature they've integrated into the OS.

If the App Store remains the only method for installing apps, and Apple continues to reject apps that they simply don't like, then it's not a healthy platform for consumers in the end.

Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by grupthink on Thursday June 25, 2020 @06:26AM (#23638976)
How about giving people a choice?

If you like defense in depth: App Store.

If you like freedom of choice: Open Market Store and side-loading.

Re:iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents ev... by nutshell89 on Thursday June 25, 2020 @08:55AM (#23640126)
This isn't a value judgement, but if enough users sideload or use the open market governments will probably have to step in to advocate permissions checking because Apple won't have the influence to regulate developer behavior on their platform(s).

You can sort of see this on other platforms - the Mac App Store has very few quality apps listed on the store and Apple is further moving towards locking down root permissions b/c users can download apps or install software from anywhere on the web. It's typical for users to install anti-malware software on new Android devices, etc.