Re:An experiment suggested by a PhD student may rewrite chem...
by nl on Thursday June 25, 2020 @01:35AM
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> It's true that it's less dense, but "float" is a huge understatement. That is, it skitters, like water on a hot frying pan.
No, if you wrapped it in some impermeable coating so it couldn't react with water it would still float.
> But, I guess because it's less dense, it doesn't detonate as often as sodium or potassium do.
It doesn't "detonate as often" because it is less reactive than sodium and potassium because it is less likely to lose it's outer electron because that outer electron is closer to the nucleus.
That also means it is denser.
Re:An experiment suggested by a PhD student may rewrite chem...
by jtbayly on Thursday June 25, 2020 @05:25AM
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Lithium is denser then sodium?
Re:An experiment suggested by a PhD student may rewrite chem...
by mirimir on Thursday June 25, 2020 @04:16AM
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OK, sure. But TFA doesn't mention any coating.
I found a resource that corroborates what I said about behavior on water.[0] But it doesn't get into why that is.
And about density and electronegativity:
g/cm^3 χ (Pauling) 1st ionization energy (kJ/mol)
Li 0.535 0.98 520
Na 0.968 0.93 496
K 0.856 0.84 419
The difference in density is larger than that for electronegativity and 1st ionization energy. But yes, all three arguably play a role. Still, for Li vs Na, density seems like the major factor.0) https://www.reference.com/science/alkali-metals-react-water-...
Re:An experiment suggested by a PhD student may rewrite chem...
by cbhl on Thursday June 25, 2020 @05:14AM
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My high school chemistry teacher lamented that he had fond memories of taking a lump of a metal (sodium, potassium) and watching the fireworks with his students when they threw it in a pond out back. These days, he has to settle for taking a small sliver and dropping it into a beaker of water behind a safety shield.
Re:An experiment suggested by a PhD student may rewrite chem...
by phyzome on Thursday June 25, 2020 @03:41PM
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A big chunk can jump back out at you, along the original angle of incidence. And it can really fuck up the pond's chemistry. So I endorse not throwing big chunks of alkali metal in ponds.
Putting a small lump in a bucket outdoors using a rope-activated rig sounds pretty reasonable, though.
Re:An experiment suggested by a PhD student may rewrite chem...
by mirimir on Thursday June 25, 2020 @05:02PM
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Sodium in hot concentrated nitric acid is very impressive. As you say, outside with a string-activated rig. Short term, it does kill vegetation. But long term, it's fertilizer.
Re:An experiment suggested by a PhD student may rewrite chem...
by mnw21cam on Thursday June 25, 2020 @05:24AM
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My school teacher chucked a golf-ball-size lump of sodium into the school swimming pool, then declared a wish to see the face of the guy who tests the pH of the pool the next morning.
And yeah, TFA is a little lame. I laughed at "lithium...floats on water". It's true that it's less dense, but "float" is a huge understatement. That is, it skitters, like water on a hot frying pan. But, I guess because it's less dense, it doesn't detonate as often as sodium or potassium do.