Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly

Re:Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly by iso1631 on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @03:12PM (#23632494)

I wrote a quick perl script earlier today to push crt.sh results for a bunch of domains into slack.

Took about 30 minutes, far less time than messing about with why pip has broken on my desktop yet again:

  Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 11, in <module>
    sys.exit(main())
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/pip/_internal/cli/main.py", line 73, in main
    command = create_command(cmd_name, isolated=("--isolated" in cmd_args))
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/pip/_internal/commands/__init__.py", line 96, in create_command
    module = importlib.import_module(module_path)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/importlib/__init__.py", line 126, in import_module
    return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level)
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 986, in _gcd_import
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 969, in _find_and_load
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 958, in _find_and_load_unlocked
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 673, in _load_unlocked
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 665, in exec_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 222, in _call_with_frames_removed
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/pip/_internal/commands/search.py", line 18, in <module>

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Re:Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly by b5n on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @08:31PM (#23635479)

I understand no one wants to deal with unexpected issues, especially when you're trying to get something done. Why not use virtual environments? You keep packages out of your system's python, and if you run into issues like above you can just recreate it:

  b5n:~/venv_dir$ python3 -m venv im_a_venv
  b5n:~/venv_dir$ . im_a_venv/bin/activate
  (im_a_venv)b5n:~/venv_dir$ pip install requests
  (im_a_venv)b5n:~/venv_dir$ pip freeze > requirements.txt
  (im_a_venv)b5n:~/venv_dir$ deactivate

  b5n:~/venv_dir$ python3 -m venv another_venv
  b5n:~/venv_dir$ . another_venv/bin/activate
  (another_venv)b@b5n:~/venv_dir$ pip install -r requirements.txt

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Re:Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly by iso1631 on Thursday June 25, 2020 @03:57AM (#23638019)

The reason I use linux and perl (or sometimes bash) - it just works, I get the least number of surprises. Dependencies in perl are handled by my OS same as everything else, I don't need to maintain multiple package managers, I just bash out the script and move on

I don't write software as an end goal, I write software to accomplish my end goal.

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Re:Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly by anonymousCar on Thursday June 25, 2020 @03:39AM (#23637887)

While experienced python devs will say, yeah that'd how you should do it. The problem is that python by default isn't using virtualenvs. Consider rust or is where you need to specify global installs.

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Re:Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly by elwell on Wednesday June 24, 2020 @10:06PM (#23636116)

I spent 15 seconds trying to figure out how that 'Perl code' runs...

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