My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by creato on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:00PM (#23617713)

This is comparing murder to every instance of police killing someone, justified or not. Police murdering someone is much more rare. The ratio you are talking about probably is in fact well over 100:1.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by throwaway_jobs on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:07PM (#23617821)

I don’t know about the ratio being 100:1, but You are right these are Classified police killings not murders...that said, also consider George Floyd’s death was on track to be swept under the rug as a Justified police Killing until the protests.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by fastball on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:20PM (#23618029)

Considering the fact that 99% of people murdered by police are getting a lot of airtime right now, I think we can say that the ratio is closer to 100:1.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by throwaway_jobs on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:50PM (#23618447)

So take Eric Gardner’s death in 2014, NYPD had him in a chokehold his last words “I can’t breathe”...justice dept refused to bring changes, I won’t get into right/wrong (murder/justified killing) but hell AG Barr sides against the justice dept.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by fastball on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @08:26PM (#23622317)

Right, you know Eric Gardner's name, which means that he is one of the people cops have killed that many people generally consider more of a murder.

You add up all those people and the ratio is about 100:1.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by fzeroracer on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:07PM (#23620288)

Of course, it's only murder if someone ends up going to jail, no? Consider John Crawford, who was murdered by police, yet charges were not brought against them.

Now consider we have multiple data points of police committing murder and getting away with it. How can we argue that it's rare, given that we have several instances of police getting away with it and not being considered part of said recorded statistics?

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by creato on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:55PM (#23620854)

Exactly how many "multiple", and over how many years? The case you cited is 6 years old. If this is occurring at the rate being suggested by the comment I replied to, we should be able to find dozens of cases from this (partial) year alone. That's a lot of George Floyds to go unnoticed, in a media and cultural environment that is very interested in noticing them.

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by lostlogin on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @02:03PM (#23617757)

When you have been given the right to kill people without legal consequence, the distinction become rather hard to make. There have been a lot of unwarranted killings by police that seem to have gone unpunished, how do you chalk those up?

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Re:My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how ... by jonfw on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @03:49PM (#23619308)

If the goal is to make a factual argument, then the facts are that the # of police murders is less than the # of police killings, because some portion of those killings are justifiable.

Where we draw the line is debatable, but the person you were responding to wasn't really attempting to draw a line.

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