Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
by errantspark on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:01PM
(#23605649)
Ahahaha come on my guy, effective people get to where they are because they can make good risk/reward assessments. Turning off javascript hasn't been worth the opportunity cost to a "real professional" for decades.
[ Parent
| on HN ]
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
by paulryanrogers on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:12PM
(#23605823)
Security researchers and activists in oppressive regimes are professionals. And it's amazing how fast one can end up becoming one when your employer gets badly hacked or your government changes for the worse.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
by errantspark on Monday June 22, 2020 @06:58PM
(#23607920)
I'm not saying there's no reason to turn off javascript, or that there aren't professions where that's a good default. But it's absolutely not the norm.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
by throwaway_pdp09 on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:08PM
(#23605759)
> because they can make good risk/reward assessments
Indeed, and I made mine. No ads, not tracking, no risk of malware, no need for virus scanner, high speed page loading (ahem, when it works). Worth it? For me, sure! Peace of mind means a lot to me.
What's so hard about making web pages that don't use unnecessary tech?
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
by errantspark on Monday June 22, 2020 @06:57PM
(#23607911)
There's nothing wrong with it, I AGREE with you that we shouldn't ship 5 megs of some garbage framework with every blog post. The point I'm responding to is that it's somehow reasonable or common for "professionals" to run with JS off, and to not do so is "playing around". It's not. It's a very niche thing that very few people get an actual benefit from.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
by throwaway_pdp09 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @03:45AM
(#23610979)
Nonono, that's not what I said (well, not what I intendeded, I suppose it was ambiguous). "kids playing around, not professionals working" was referring to web designers indulging in their 'web experience' crap at a cost to the users, NOT to those who might run with JS off.
I am a professional, and I primarily browse with it off by default and whitelisted for only a few sites. I do have a JavaScript-enabled browser for user-hostile websites which require it, but I rarely need to use it (and I have real animus against those which force me into doing so).